El-Aurian vs Q

[TimeIsAPredator]

Promise?

I was actually surprised Q got a mention as being absent in Discovery. I expected the standard lazy writing of OMG they are members of the Federation now

 

[fireproof78]

I was actually surprised Q got a mention as being absent in Discovery. I expected the standard lazy writing of OMG they are members of the Federation now

That would be my give up moment.

 

[Dryson]

Her powers are clearly nothing compared to Burnham's. It's also why we will never see Q in Discovery

Michael Burnham is not special. She is human. Per canon, humans have never had any extraordinary powers, like Guinan has.

Burnham is nothing more than a hustler.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Michael Burnham is not special. She is human. Per canon, humans have never had any extraordinary powers, like Guinan has.

Burnham is nothing more than a hustler.

 

[dupersuper]

Michael Burnham is not special. She is human. Per canon, humans have never had any extraordinary powers, like Guinan has.

Except human ESPers/telepaths as seen in Where No Man Has Gone Before and Is There in Truth No Beauty and Haven...or the guy who ascended in Lower Decks...

 

[Noname Given]

Michael Burnham is not special. She is human. Per canon, humans have never had any extraordinary powers, like Guinan has.

Burnham is nothing more than a hustler.

Humans have a special place in the Star Trek Universe. We have such potential, extremely powerful species (like the Q, the Organians and the Metrons) have an interest in watching us; and a powerful being (V'Ger) joined with a human to expand its mind in the23rd century...

 

[Nerys Myk]

Humans have a special place in the Star Trek Universe. We have such potential, extremely powerful species (like the Q, the Organians and the Metrons) have an interest in watching us; and a powerful being (V'Ger) joined with a human to expand its mind in the23rd century...

Creeps who like to watch.

 

[dupersuper]

Creeps who like to watch.

Omnipotence and eternal life can get boring.

 

[Shikarnov]

When I first discovered "Star Trek VII: Generations" I thought the Nexus would explain why Guinan's people had some sort of repellent toward Q. As I continued watching that horrible trainwreck of a movie the plot device was just as irrelevant as that movie.

I quite agree. Generations was a mess -- and its only purpose seemed to be getting Kirk and Picard together and crash-landing the Enterprise. But as messy as it was, at least it felt like Star Trek: The Next Generation, unlike the following three movies.

As for El-Aurians vs Q, it could be that Guinan's people are like the Organians -- formerly corporeal but masquerading to better interact with the rest of us. Or perhaps they're more like the Zalkonians, who very recently had some individuals begin to evolve beyond their original form (TNG: Transfigurations).

This would certainly explain the Borg being in a position to destroy their world while allowing Guinan to have some ability to defend herself against a being like the Q (although within limits), and might even further explain Guinan's musings about how she was some kind of misfit among her people (messing around with lesser creatures and all that).

And as for getting caught in the Nexus, or being swept away into/vulnerable to time shifts and whatnot -- I think it shows why, although she may be able to defend herself a bit, she is still not all powerful and would probably be unable to mount must of an offense that would hurt Q.

 

[Shikarnov]

Humans have a special place in the Star Trek Universe. We have such potential, extremely powerful species (like the Q, the Organians and the Metrons) have an interest in watching us; and a powerful being (V'Ger) joined with a human to expand its mind in the23rd century...

I wonder if this isn't the closest Roddenberry came to finding religion. He seemed fairly entrenched in an atheistic mindset that tore God after God to pieces and tried to expose them as frauds -- but somehow managed to adopt an ancient geocentrical view that the Earth (or, rather, humanity) is the center of the universe and that humans are so exceptional and amazing that even the Gods need to keep an eye on us.

 

[Dryson]

Actually Generations does set up a rather interesting plot for the future.

Since the Nexus Ribbon creates realities based on the good emotions that the person wants to perceive, you could say that the Nexus is a living organism comprised of space-time that needs emotional energy or a human presence to survive. The Nexus gives the person what it wants emotionally that the Nexus then feeds off of the chemicals the human or other life inside of the Nexus releases in the form pheromones.

A relationship similar to the Borg. The Borg, the construct of Hell for the person being assimilated. The Nexus, the construct of Heaven for the person entering into the Nexus.

I wonder, would the Nexus Ribbon still be around in the time of Discovery? Who or what might have become residents in the Nexus since 2371 up to the present day in Discovery?

 

[Mondragon]

I wonder if this isn't the closest Roddenberry came to finding religion. He seemed fairly entrenched in an atheistic mindset that tore God after God to pieces and tried to expose them as frauds -- but somehow managed to adopt an ancient geocentrical view that the Earth (or, rather, humanity) is the center of the universe and that humans are so exceptional and amazing that even the Gods need to keep an eye on us.

Eh, it wasn't just Earth, his universe was implied full of planets and systems effected, lorded or watched over by false god beings.
We just mostly followed when they crossed paths with Earthlings.