What if they were?
What if they were?
It would've been more believable than the crew being turned into Muppets.
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Magicks of Megas-Tu.
If Wishes Were Horses.
Elogium.
Dear Doctor.
Profit and Lace.
Unimatrix Zero.
The 37s.
Little Green Men.
Haven’t watched the puppets, but the musical episode was really good.
My main issue with either is that neither are particularly innovative. When Xena/Buffy did a musical episode, it was a game-changer. Surprising and fresh. Likewise when Angel did muppets.
It does stink a little of creative dearth that they had to go to those wells. How about a musical? How about muppets?… but it is what it is. The musical was great and I’ve heard good things about the muppets.
I don’t think it’s out of the way for Star Trek to do those things, but it is a bit ‘been there, done that’.
My main issue with either is that neither are particularly innovative. When Xena/Buffy did a musical episode, it was a game-changer. Surprising and fresh. Likewise when Angel did muppets.
It does stink a little of creative dearth that they had to go to those wells. How about a musical? How about muppets?… but it is what it is. The musical was great and I’ve heard good things about the muppets.
I don’t think it’s out of the way for Star Trek to do those things, but it is a bit ‘been there, done that’.
As has already been pointed out, in the end it was all revealed to have been a dream, which should satisfy those who were against the concept.
I don't think it contradicts what we've seen on screen before honestly - people can exist as non-organic objects (Sargon et al in the spheres, Ira Graves in Data, etc) and the transporter has been a terrifying black magic machine that can fuse people, rip people into two philosophical halves, and turn people into something else since day one.
For me the difference with previous Star Trek was that SNW's posture toward itself was extremely self-conscious, to the point of even declaring the whole thing a dream, whereas a mid-season TOS/TNG/VGR episode might have just straight-up turned the crew into houseplants and played it earnestly as a weird sci-fi adventure story.
My favourite part of the puppet episode was Pike's execution and subsequent heroic return to the ship, which is the one part where it felt like the writers stopped winking at the camera and instead let some genuine story arise from the whole puppet scenario... but even there, they couldn't help themselves with the TWOK pastiche.
My favourite part of the puppet episode was Pike's execution and subsequent heroic return to the ship, which is the one part where it felt like the writers stopped winking at the camera and instead let some genuine story arise from the whole puppet scenario... but even there, they couldn't help themselves with the TWOK pastiche.
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then oh well lol
at least both the production crew members of the star universe and also the cast members of the star trek universe do in a way interact with us on here
I feel like we know what the '90s series would done, as they each had around 170 episodes to come up with ideas for and despite that they never went near puppets. The closest they came was turning the crew into children, and the writers thought even that was eye-rolling enough.
If they did anything like that it probably would've been done in the holodeck, in a surreal story like Fistful of Datas or Phantasms. You can get away with anything in VR!
How do we know they never thought about it? Maybe it was too expensive for their 1990s budgets.
Indeed, considering each puppet is close to the price of a car, there's no way in hell Berman would have agreed to spend that kind of money.
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Have you watched TOS?
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