Eat clones!
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^^The biodiversity of our food supplies is already compromised by the narrowness of our cultivation practices. Cloning wouldn't add significantly to that unless it became a primary means of generating food, rather than just an available alternative.
We already eat cloned food all the time -- cloned in the literal sense. The word "clone" originally meant a cutting taken from a plant and grafted onto another; other methods of creating genetically identical offspring are called cloning by analogy with that. And a lot of our produce is created in this way, either to create seedless fruit or to ensure uniformity. Every banana that most of us has ever eaten in our lives is a direct, genetically identical descendant of the same original plant. Which is very bad, because with so little biodiversity, the entire world supply of bananas could be wiped out by a single infection or blight. Similar problems exist with wheat and other grains and produce.
We already eat cloned food all the time -- cloned in the literal sense. The word "clone" originally meant a cutting taken from a plant and grafted onto another; other methods of creating genetically identical offspring are called cloning by analogy with that. And a lot of our produce is created in this way, either to create seedless fruit or to ensure uniformity. Every banana that most of us has ever eaten in our lives is a direct, genetically identical descendant of the same original plant. Which is very bad, because with so little biodiversity, the entire world supply of bananas could be wiped out by a single infection or blight. Similar problems exist with wheat and other grains and produce.
^^On the other hand, genetics provides our best bet for solving the biodiversity problem, by letting us recover extinct variants or create new ones. The technology isn't intrinsically bad, it's just a question of whether it's used well.
I don't think we will see meat or milk from clones animals any time soon. With current technology, any production benefits will be far outweighed by the cost of the cloning. An individual clone would cost several thousand to tens of thousand dollars to create. That is much more than the milk or meat from the cloned animal would be worth, let alone any advantage over a non-cloned animal. We won't see it until technology allows it to be done as easy and cheap as artificial insemination.
The only exception I can think of is males used for breeding. When an high quality male used for breeding becomes too old to breed females, it maybe advantageous to create a clone to renew the breeding line. But those animals aren't eaten, anyway.
Instead of cloning whole animals, I'd rather see them clone just the various tissues. Vat-grown meats wouldn't require killing living animals, and it wouldn't do the same damage to the environment that large-scale livestock agriculture does.
Do I get to name my clones:
Soy Lent Clone
Green Clone?
?
Soy Lent Clone
Green Clone?
?
Maybe they'll marinate it in them, too, just to kill two birds with one stone.
^^If all you eat is meat, cloned or otherwise, then you've got bigger problems than that.
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Everyone should go the same route as me and turn vegetarian, I saw a program the other day called 'kill it, cook it and eat it'. The program literally shows you them kill the poor little defenceless lambs and skin them etc etc
I watched them fire a bolt through one lambs head and the lamb was still alive screaming after the bolt went through its head, another lamb had its head held and they stuck a big knife in its neck and started sawing in and out all the while the lamb was screaming and blood was gushing out everywhere.
I AM NOW A VEGETARIAN!
I watched them fire a bolt through one lambs head and the lamb was still alive screaming after the bolt went through its head, another lamb had its head held and they stuck a big knife in its neck and started sawing in and out all the while the lamb was screaming and blood was gushing out everywhere.
I AM NOW A VEGETARIAN!
I grew up on the farm, ain't gonna happen.
When I was about nine my dad had to butcher a pig that had a bum leg since he couldn't sell it tot he slaughter house. It was winter and the road was snow packed. He tied a chain around it's back legs and lifted it up in the air with the loader bucket on the tractor and proceeded to cut the jugular vein. There was a lot of blood and a lot of steam as it was about -5 degrees outside. The blood literally gushed out an onto the snow packed road turning it red like a cherry flavoring being added to a snow cone. It wasn't long until the pig passed out due to loss of blood and then death. My dad proceeded to harvest every part of the pig except the squeal. He did a good job of dis-assembling the animal, but I don't think he would have fared as well if he had to put it back together. That night my mom made some pork chops from the freshly harvested pig flesh. Those were pretty damn good tasting pork chops.
I learned a lot about the different parts of the pig as my dad who some would consider "a country bumpkin" was able to identify every internal organ in the pig as he carefully removed them and placed them in a seprate plastic baggy. I got more education that day concerning biology than I had previously. Always scored at the top of my class in biology classes.
Would you consider that child abuse?
Food is food and Humans developed large brains by hunting for food, not hunting plants, any chimp can hunt plants and kill them, heck, even chimps eat meat occasionally.
If you wanna only eat vegitarian, good for you. Just make for damned sure you eat the right stuff of you could be deficient in certain vitamins and amino acids.
But no video clip is gonna change my mind on eating animals.
That is very cruel and evil as if he got pleasure from killing the disabled pig that way.
I wonder if the R.S.P.A knows about this.
That is an absolutely disgusting way to behave.
He obviously has no compassion for living creatures and from your description prolonged the animal's suffering.
It is found from numerous studies that people who are cruel to animals,are cruel to people and their children lack compassion,and empathy in turn and from your,very cold butcher style description,that certainly seems to be the case.
If he had an ounce of decency he would have killed it quickly and humanely by severing his neck spinal cord.
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