Earth's armed forces and naval fleets in the ST universe
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I speak for a vast alliance of fellow creatures who believe in the same thing?
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Google tells me that that's it. The only two times that words United Earth were relevantly used in the context that we are interested in, in all of Star Trek. Good bless Google! Google is great!
And...
Google tells me that that's it. The only two times that words United Earth were relevantly used in the context that we are interested in, in all of Star Trek. Good bless Google! Google is great!
The Vulcans had their own intelligence operation separate from Starfleet intelligence or Federation intelligence. The Bajoran Miltia can defend the planet on the ground and Starfleet can defend the planet in space. ST canon never made it clear if planetary sovereignty disappeared when to came to defence. Since Starfleet is not a military operation depends on the plot, then another set up apart from Starfleet must be defending each planet.
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There is no more Bajoran Malitia after Bajor joins the Federation.
The problem with the Vulcans is that they are so long lived, and been around as a space faring species for so damn long, that its illogical for them to think that the Federation is anything but a blip on their personal timeline for which they have to be ready to Vexit at any moment.
The problem with the Vulcans is that they are so long lived, and been around as a space faring species for so damn long, that its illogical for them to think that the Federation is anything but a blip on their personal timeline for which they have to be ready to Vexit at any moment.
'Vexit' I like it! Have you read the novel 'Sarek' ?
Or the 'Bajoran militia' becomes another Starfleet regiment, similar to how it is done in GB with different regiments. New Star Trek cadets on graduation if posted to Bajor are sent to the 'Bajoran militia regiment', or if posted to Andor are part of the 'Andorian Imperial regiment.'
I read Sarek 20 years ago.
I still have it, a hard cover.
I remember nothing.
Solok, in DS9 Take me out to the holosuite, had a %100 Vulcan crew.
How entirely racist.
Remember the Intrepid?
If a Captain can chose to have only one species on his of her ship (Kirk!) then why not just a ship of Valkyries (again, Re Voy Deathwish)? Making decisions like that seems so antifederal, and as their future becomes more and more politically correct as a reflection of our present, officers that pull this shit will be vetted and weeded out of the fleet as they try to move up the ziggurat.
I still have it, a hard cover.
I remember nothing.
Solok, in DS9 Take me out to the holosuite, had a %100 Vulcan crew.
How entirely racist.
Remember the Intrepid?
If a Captain can chose to have only one species on his of her ship (Kirk!) then why not just a ship of Valkyries (again, Re Voy Deathwish)? Making decisions like that seems so antifederal, and as their future becomes more and more politically correct as a reflection of our present, officers that pull this shit will be vetted and weeded out of the fleet as they try to move up the ziggurat.
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I think I recall reading in either the novel (since it's a novel, it's not canon) Spock's World or Sarek that the Intrepid was a compromise for the Vulcans who as pacifists did not want to serve in a military organization like Starfleet. They were allowed to crew it completely with Vulcans.
But, but, but Starfleet are not military they are explorers!
I think the real reason was Vulcans still believe Humans smell bad, Sarek and T'Pol represented the exceptions that found Human scent arousing
Well alien species can claim physiological prerogative to have their own ship due to Ponn Farr, difference in gravity and room temperature. Imagine a human serving on a mainly Vulcan ship they would die of boredom or heatstrokeI read Sarek 20 years ago.
I still have it, a hard cover.
I remember nothing.
Solok, in DS9 Take me out to the holosuite, had a %100 Vulcan crew.
How entirely racist.
Remember the Intrepid?
If a Captain can chose to have only one species on his of her ship (Kirk!) then why not just a ship of Valkyries (again, Re Voy Deathwish)? Making decisions like that seems so antifederal, and as their future becomes more and more politically correct as a reflection of our present, officers that pull this shit will be vetted and weeded out of the fleet as they try to move up the ziggurat.
Well, quasi-military organization.But, but, but Starfleet are not military they are explorers!
I think the real reason was Vulcans still believe Humans smell bad, Sarek and T'Pol represented the exceptions that found Human scent arousing
T'Pol didn't act like she liked the smell when she first came on board. Or maybe Porthos let one loose in the ready room. From all that cheese he's not supposed to get in his doggie diet.
Was Picard's crew so much better? Sure there was a small percentage of non-Humans, but in the pilot he had a machine and a half Human on his senior staff and the rest were Humans. And even the machine was in the likeness of a Human.
The Enterprise D is a Human ship posing as something it's not.
Where are the non-Humans in this imaget?
Every one but Yar.Was Picard's crew so much better? Sure there was a small percentage of non-Humans, but in the pilot he had a machine and a half Human on his senior staff and the rest were Humans. And even the machine was in the likeness of a Human.
The Enterprise D is a Human ship posing as something it's not.
Where are the non-Humans in this imaget?
There's a Ardanan, a Fabrini, a Gideon and Ekosian.
Actually considering Solok's attitude, that is literally true.
In Enterprise we discovered that Vulcans think that humans stink really badly.
Imagine you wanted to support your empire, and work in Starfleet, but you didn't want to submerse yourself in the stench of shit and garbage 24/7.
That must have been the reason for the Intrepid?
^ They should have invested in Phlox's nasal numbing agent. I bet he made a fortune!
They had to fumigate first.
Easy enough. Just open it to space for a minute.
first we know from a collection of shows across the star trek universe thereis an earth military : we know there is a security force , we know that there is something like marines, we know that at least as laye as enterprise there is a navy . i dont think there are protective service for national leaders because the idea is pretty clear that earth no longer has any forms of national diversity only cultural. that there is an earth federation delegation and a president of all earth. queen elizebeth probably is still alive because i am sure she is some kind of data like robot in ohr present day universe. since starfleet charter is exploration i am sure there is some global defense force . we know for sure from across all series thst there is definetly some kindnof marine or army or both. they are federation bit possibly not starfleet . though memory alpha is a great source of these things
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