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each season's WORST

The station I was watching it on scrambled the signal right when they kissed..damn bible belt!!!!
:lol: It wasn't even an erotic kiss! I swear I'm not just trying to sound 'mature', but I didn't find it that sexy. Yes, the two women were both beautiful, but in the context of the story, it's a really bittersweet scene. Of course people will just think of it as hot girl-on-girl action, but there's much deeper and emotionally powerful stuff going on in that scene and episode, gutterbrains. :p
 
Like the last time, I'll do worst and overrated this time. Keep the episode mentions going afterall. ;)

Worst

Season 1 - A Man Alone
Season 2 - Melora
Season 3 - Meridian
Season 4 - Muse (Or the Writers on Crack episode. ;) )
Season 5 - A Simple Investigation
Season 6 - The Valiant
Season 7 - Covenant

Overrated

Season 1 - Dramatis Personae
Season 2 - The Alternate (Probably not overrated, but not many to chose from really)
Season 3 - Fascination
Season 4 - Crossfire
Season 5 - Doctor Bashir. I Presume
Season 6 - In the Pale Moonlight
Season 7 - The Changing Face of Evil
 
Season 1: The Storyteller
Season 2: The Alternate
Season 3: Heart of Stone
Season 4: The Sword of Kahless
Season 5: Things Past
Season 6: Time's Orphan
Season 7: Prodigal Daughter
 
Damn, a lot of the ones listed are episodes I like a lot ("Afterimage", "Take Me Out to the Holosuites", "His Way", "Re-Joined", "The Emperor's New Cloak"). And two of those are in my top ten favourites! :eek: Seriously, people? :wtf: Out of seven seasons that each have a ton of stinkers, you pick THOSE as the worst? Methinks some people are spoiled. :p Here are my choices (keep in mind that I haven't seen every episode of seasons 6 and 7):
I like most of the episodes you mentioned, but you lost me at The Emperor's New Cloak. That episode is Mirror Universe at its worst, with all of the things that sucked about it: silly plot, evil lesbians/bisexuals :rolleyes: and overall pointlessness (good humans and, now, good Bajorans [Leeta], fighting against evil Cardassians and Klingons, right, we really need the MU for that... no, right, we need it in order to have some girl-on-girl action :vulcan:). It even combined two worst aspects of DS9: MU and Ferengi comedy at its worst. It's way worse than Prodigal's Daughter. Prodigal's Daughter could be removed and we wouldn't feel any difference, but if Emperor's New Cloak was removed, it would make season 7 and the show overall better by a few notches. Not that MU on DS9 didn't suck before that, but this episode was its nadir.

Season 1
"In the Hands of Prophets" - It's hard to pick a worst season 1 episode because I hate so much of that season, but this seems as good a choice as any because I remember that after I saw it, I seriously considered giving up on watching DS9 altogether. I generally hate episodes about Bajorans, and after this one it was many, many months before I finally decided to give the series another chance and started watching season 2, which finally got me into the show for good with the brilliant "Whispers".
Are you serious? :eek: ITHOTP is a great episode! And you accuse other people of being spoiled?! There are tons of stinkers in season 1 you could have chosen, and instead you pick one of its best episodes?!


Season 6
"Sons and Daughters" - Very disappointing last major appearance of Alexander (his presence in "You Are Cordially Invited..." wasn't much more than a cameo). The Ziyal stuff was a little better, but Alexander's arc in this episode is so depressing and irritating that it makes me never want to see the episode ever again.
Eh, I don't think the Alexander stuff is particularly bad :shrug: and I really liked the Ziyal stuff. It isn't anywhere near being one of the worst episodes!


Between this and the other thread, you've lost me!
I picked random average-ish episodes from each season and then posted them as both the best and worst. :shrug:

I would have done it seriously, but I'll probably be reviewing DS9 in a few months and I didn't want to declare best and worst episodes now and then change my mind in a few months. People might accuse me of being a flip-flopper, then I'll never be elected president. :(

Visionary isn't average-ish, it's awesome! :klingon:
Things Past isn't average-ish either! :cardie:

Season 5: Things Past
:cardie:
 
1) If Wishes Were Horses (4.5/10)
2) Sanctuary (5.5/10)
3) Past Tense, Part II (4.5/10)
4) Rejoined (5.5/10)
5) The Darkness and the Light (4/10)
6) Valiant (2/10)
7) Chrysalis (4.5)

Of all those, I would only call Valiant a bad episode. The others are just the lesser of each season. ;)

Didn't take long for me to see favorites like Melora, Babel, In the Hands of the Prophets, and His Way on other's lists. In fact, three of those were on my favorite ep of that season list!

I actually would have liked to have seen the Melora character stick around. I really liked her. :shifty:
 
1) Q-Less (annoying)
2) Profit and Loss (terminally boring)
3) The Abandoned (tedious)
4) Rules of Engagement (tedious)
5) Let He Who Is Without Sin... (complete misfire)
6) His Way (annoying)
7) Extreme Measures (insulting and out of place)
 
7) Extreme Measures (insulting and out of place)

I almost put that one, as it scored the same as Chrysalis. It's really a shame they had to have that episode so close to the end. DS9 was consistently very good, and they were having an especially strong run to the end, then along comes that one.

"Insulting" is a good way to describe it too. I mean obviously you have to suspend a certain level of disbelief since it is after all science fiction, but the whole coming up with that plan, and miraculously having the capability to implement it at the last minute was ludicrous beyond comprehension.

I think the only reason I didn't score the episode any lower is because I really like the Sloan character, and I did like everything else in the ep that surrounded the ridiculous part in which they simultaneouly took a trip into Sloan's mind. :rolleyes:
 
I like most of the episodes you mentioned, but you lost me at The Emperor's New Cloak. That episode is Mirror Universe at its worst, with all of the things that sucked about it: silly plot, evil lesbians/bisexuals :rolleyes: and overall pointlessness (good humans and, now, good Bajorans [Leeta], fighting against evil Cardassians and Klingons, right, we really need the MU for that... no, right, we need it in order to have some girl-on-girl action :vulcan:). It even combined two worst aspects of DS9: MU and Ferengi comedy at its worst.

Well, I liked all of the mirror universe episodes (except "Resurrection", which I haven't seen), so that's the first reason I feel differently about it than most people. The other thing is that basically I think you and many others who are against that episode are just taking it too seriously.

I think it's just fun. Not as overtly comedic as something like "Fascination" for example, but like people are supposed to see that episode, I mostly see it as a silly and enjoyable romp. I thought it was cool to see Ezri being ruthless and the sex stuff just amused me. I liked Rom's constant bewilderment at everything going on too. It was a very obvious joke, but sometimes those jokes work (the movie "Airplane!" for example).

It's way worse than Prodigal's Daughter. Prodigal's Daughter could be removed and we wouldn't feel any difference, but if Emperor's New Cloak was removed, it would make season 7 and the show overall better by a few notches. Not that MU on DS9 didn't suck before that, but this episode was its nadir.

I appreciated the "Emperor's New Cloak" as a bit of a break from all of the serious events going on in season 7, it was a welcome bit of comic relief for me. It was fairly self-contained. I don't understand why you think it seriously hurt the season overall. It's not like some major events in it impacted subsequent episodes in a significantly negative way. "Prodigal Daughter", on the other hand, just bored me, so it felt like a waste of time. When I have to choose between an episode with its heart in the right place that's dull and an episode that's entertaining, but pointless, I'll choose the more entertaining one.

Are you serious? :eek: ITHOTP is a great episode! And you accuse other people of being spoiled?! There are tons of stinkers in season 1 you could have chosen, and instead you pick one of its best episodes?!

Well by now I think you're familiar with my bias against Bajoran-centric episodes. I looked over the whole list of season 1 episodes to make my choice and I found it was the one that bothered me the most, because it left me really reluctant to continue watching DS9 seasons after finishing season 1. It not only bored me and focused relentlessly on my least liked alien species on Star Trek, it also irritated me because I don't like religious debate being brought into Star Trek. It never worked for me on DS9 and this episode was one of the times when it got on my nerves the most. I would say I generally think sci-fi and religion don't mix, but I really like the way it's been used in BSG, so I guess it's just DS9's way of dealing with it that bugged me. Other season 1 episodes were just so forgettable that I don't have any feelings about them at all.

The rest of the season 1 episodes I didn't like much were pretty poorly written, but at least have something positive I can remember about them. For example, "Move Along Home" had sort of a campy quality that made it enjoyable in parts, despite its overall cheesiness....same with "If Wishes Were Horses". A lot of people hate on "Q-Less" and yeah, the technobabble in that episode is agonizing, but Q and Vash were great on TNG, and even if they weren't as cool in this episode, it was still nice to see them again and they had a few great moments.

Eh, I don't think the Alexander stuff is particularly bad :shrug: and I really liked the Ziyal stuff. It isn't anywhere near being one of the worst episodes!

Yeah, in that case it was just hard for me to pick a worst episode because I haven't seen a lot of episodes from season 6 (including many that are often cited as the worst episode by others) and I think what I've seen of that season was solid. Of what I have seen, one thing I remember pissing me off most in that season was the way Alexander was written. I really liked him towards the end of TNG.
 
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7) Extreme Measures (insulting and out of place)

I almost put that one, as it scored the same as Chrysalis. It's really a shame they had to have that episode so close to the end.
I was also 'this close' to listing it as worst of the season. I really don't care for it, and hate 'in the character's mind' episodes as a rule.

It was only the super-crumminess of 'New Cloak' that spared it for my list. :)
 
Season 1: Move Along Home
Season 2: Paradise
Season 3: Meridian
Season 4: Bar Association
Season 5: Let He Who Is Without Sin...
Season 6: Valiant
Season 7: Prodigal Daughter

Though I could be wrong. I'm patiently waiting for TheGodBen's reviews.
 
Season 1: Move Along Home
Season 2: Paradise
Season 3: Meridian
Season 4: Bar Association
Season 5: Let He Who Is Without Sin...
Season 6: Valiant
Season 7: Prodigal Daughter

Though I could be wrong. I'm patiently waiting for TheGodBen's reviews.
Well, I'd say that you're wrong about Valiant, but Pemmer Harge and DevilEyes think that I'm wrong about the average-ish episodes, so I'm very confused. :crazy:
 
^ Well, about the only episodes from that season I didn't like were Valiant and Profit and Lace. It's a close call, but I say Valiant.
 
^^Man, I loved Valiant. The kids were so good at being bratty I couldnt help but get emotionally involved in the episode. Great ending too, I thought. I don't know how you could even mention it next to Profit And Lace, an episode so insultingly bad it made me wanna poke my eyes out with a fork. But anyway, my list:

S1 - The Passenger
S2 - Sanctuary
S3 - Meridian
S4 - The Muse
S5 - Let He Who Is Without Sin
S6 - Profit & Lace
S7 - The Emporer's New Cloak
 
I am suprised that Season 1: "Move along home" isn't on anyone's list. Honestly, everytime I hear that girl jumping to that Allamaraine rhyme, I want to pluck my eyes out and stab my ears. The whole cast proceeds to then follow the nonsense.

Also, looking at the various choices, I realised that season 2 had far more stinkers than other seasons. Season 1, even forgoing giving it a little leeway since it's the opening season, was overall better. Thank heavens the writes and producers figured out by the end of S2 where they wanted to go with the series.
 
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I am suprised that Season 1: "Move along home" isn't on anyone's list.

Oh, I can help you with that. ;)


Season 1: MOVE ALONG HOME

Season 2: SECOND SIGHT

Season 3: MERIDIAN

Season 4: THE MUSE

Season 5: LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN...

Season 6: PROFIT AND LACE

Season 7: PRODIGAL DAUGHTER
 
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