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Dune Part 2 2023 (24, 25, 26...)
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From the ever-reliable Onion:
‘Dune: Part Two’ To Pick Up Right Where Viewers Fell Asleep During First One
‘Dune: Part Two’ To Pick Up Right Where Viewers Fell Asleep During First One
That's the dilemma, adapt it faithfully and risk putting some people to sleep or action it up and risk putting the fans into an angry furor.
Both ways can put me to sleep. lol Incessant action or droning on and on=ZZZZzzzzzz
Both ways can put me to sleep. lol Incessant action or droning on and on=ZZZZzzzzzz
With the exception of swapping out Margot Fenring's part for Irulan's spy-on-the-Harkonnens plot, the TV miniseries did a reasonably faithful adaptation of the novel that was not even slightly sleep-inducing.
I loved Irulan in the 2000/2003 miniseries, but it was a mistake to omit Margot Fenring.
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That was really nice overview of what we can expect for part 2.
I was thinking while reading the article that, as great as his sci-fi stuff so far has been, I would love to see Villeneuve do a completely original movie. So far they've all been adaptations or sequels, which makes me wonder what he'd do if he wasn't building off a preexisting source.
I was thinking while reading the article that, as great as his sci-fi stuff so far has been, I would love to see Villeneuve do a completely original movie. So far they've all been adaptations or sequels, which makes me wonder what he'd do if he wasn't building off a preexisting source.
Then you should watch Enemy, the first film of his I watched. Yes, it's loosely based on a novel but emphasis on loosely.
And so what if his best works are adaptations and/or sequels? That doesn't take away from the amazing work he did in adapting such stories.
And so what if his best works are adaptations and/or sequels? That doesn't take away from the amazing work he did in adapting such stories.
A faithful adaptation is not the same thing as a good adaptation. That first mini was overall pretty turgid, and made some very questionable choices.
I'd rather see an adaptation keep to the spirit of the text, not just the literal text itself.
It's the double-edged sword of filmmaking, filmmakers will have an easier getting an adaptation greenlit than an original project since with an adaptation, there is presumably preexisting popularity and therefore less of a risk. By the time the filmmakers have enough popularity of their own to convince studios that maybe their original ideas might have merit, they've become so well known for adaptations that everyone wants them onboard to adapt The Next Big Thing.
Though in a case like Dune, though it has a pre-existing storyline, much of the world and its appearance is completely open to interpretation, so Villeneuve has more or less a blank canvas when it comes to creating the world of Dune that it's basically the next best thing to an original work from his perspective.
One of the observations I made many years ago is that for the most part, what Lynch got right, the miniseries got wrong (or inadequate), and vice-versa. The only exceptions are that both of them got the Bene Gesserit and Sardaukar wrong.
Of course Lynch only did the first book, and the miniseries covered the first three. What Children of Dune did exceptionally wrong was to cast Susan Sarandon as Wensicia Corrino. This character is Irulan's younger sister (Irulan is the eldest of the 5 Corrino sisters). Yet they cast an actress a full generation older than Julie Cox, who played Irulan. This, plus the hammy way Sarandon played the part, did that miniseries no favors.
I liked the rest of it, though, for the most part.
I still snicker at how Villeneuve claimed he wasn't copying Lynch, yet he proceeded to copy the Lynch movie stillsuits - which work opposite to how FH stated they work in the novel. If Villeneuve was going to blatantly copycat something, he should have copied the miniseries stillsuits. They got them right.
How can a desert be "completely open to interpretation"? Of course it could be set either in the Arctic or Antarctic regions of a planet that has permafrost and ice, since the definition of a desert depends on how much annual precipitation it gets, and not whether it's made of sand. But ice and snow still contain water, which is poison to sandworms. So it has to be set in a sandy desert.
Likewise, Caladan is a world of water, lots of rain, and at least part of the climate is great for growing rice (pundi rice is its chief food export). Fishing is also a major industry. So any adaptations of the book need to show this, or at least make a prominent mention.
The setting can't look as though it was created or maintained by anything requiring computers/AI.
If the author describes the characters in a certain way and an important plot point hinges on that, the adaptation needs to keep that, or at least be consistent. I'm referring to the issue of Jessica's red hair being a clue to her Harkonnen parentage, as red hair is common in that family. The Lynch movie did this right. The miniseries did not. The Villeneuve movie just about made me fall off my chair laughing. There is obviously NO attempt to make this connection immediately detectable, especially if Villeneuve wants to continue on with the rest of the books.
Poster is out. Not quite as bad as the part one posters but nothing special. Rumour is the trailer comes out tomorrow but that's just a rumour from a "leak" site that everyone is repeating so....
But it could also be a good guess. Not unusual for the trailer to follow the poster, especially when it is already been made and screened.
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1653429176878395394?t=WDaGLfFcmJoaYpaXwXx0Sg&s=19
But it could also be a good guess. Not unusual for the trailer to follow the poster, especially when it is already been made and screened.
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1653429176878395394?t=WDaGLfFcmJoaYpaXwXx0Sg&s=19
Link to trailer, premieres tomorrow at 3 est.
Teaser to the trailer is out on twitter
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1653444243237781504?s=20
Teaser to the trailer is out on twitter
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1653444243237781504?s=20
Hooray! Trailer sooner than expected!
Boo! I still loathe the very concept of teasers to movie trailers!
Boo! I still loathe the very concept of teasers to movie trailers!
Actually, I really like that poster. It's infinitely better than the standard floating heads option that 95% of all movie posters do these days.
I must not hype.
Hype is the mind-killer.
Hype is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my hype.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the hype has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Hype is the mind-killer.
Hype is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my hype.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the hype has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
I can't decide whether to reference Bender's fist pump at the end of The Breakfast Club, or the poster for Tron.
Why not all three?!I can't decide whether to reference Bender's fist pump at the end of The Breakfast Club, or the poster for Tron.
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