Dune 2018 (19,20,21...)
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Hell, yeah! I've watched it three times already. October cannot come soon enough.
Interesting.
Here's hoping on the second part. Looks good to me.
That is a pretty damn good trailer. I especially liked the character moments they included, like the Duke and Gurney. "Smile, Gurney." "I am smiling."
That was one of the better moments of this trailer, at least from the characters. That and Leto's comment about Paul being his son. That got me a little bit too.
Looks pretty good. I liked Duncan making fun of Paul. The Gurney smiling line was a little old. Overall, the comedy kinda gave me a Justice League/Suicide Squad jokes cut in to make the movie seem like a lighter vibe but I figure that's just a trailer thing and they'll work better in the film. I agree with people commenting on the exchange between Paul and Leto, that was a great addition.
Did Paul at the end look weirdly CGI-y to anyone else? Maybe it's on purpose since it has to be one of his visions.
Costumes look a lot better in motion than in the stills.
I don't think Rebecca Ferguson has ever looked better than she does in this trailer.
Expanding Chani as the "narrator" vs Irulan in the last two adaptations is a good choice, since Irulan isn't even in this film.
Did Paul at the end look weirdly CGI-y to anyone else? Maybe it's on purpose since it has to be one of his visions.
Costumes look a lot better in motion than in the stills.
I don't think Rebecca Ferguson has ever looked better than she does in this trailer.
Expanding Chani as the "narrator" vs Irulan in the last two adaptations is a good choice, since Irulan isn't even in this film.
He did look weird, though I didn't ascribe it to CGI. I was uncertain what the costumes were supposed to be as they stood out strangely in that fight compared to other battles. It made me think it was a vision of the jihad.
Yeah, I figure it's a vision of the war against the Harkonnens/Sardaukar or the Jihad. Looks to me like they painted Chalamets face on someone else's body. Which, again, since it's a vision may be an intentional choice.
The gold suit is very strange in that shot. His face looks very dream like, like he is surprised by what he is seeing.
Pretty much what I expect.
Oh damn - that trailer more than made up for the super crappy day i had.
Much more action than the first but then again the Fall of House Atreides should be brought properly to the screen. Still love the art design of the movie, every House and differing element has a unique feel to it and it seems to also fit and enhance these elements.
Small character moments before the storm breaks ( i loved Momoas' Idaho making fun of Paul in a deadpan way, just my style of humor), fantastic battle scenes and the score of the trailer, especially that female singer at the end who seems to tear up her vocal chords to this bit is just too awesome ( i hope this makes it into the movie somehow).
Questions:
- Paul fighting Sardaukar in what seems like a hardsuit and not a stillsuit. Vision of the Future, scene from the second movie when they retake Dune from the Harkonnens and the Emperor ( did they already film the second movie?) or what? Anyway it looked awesome.
- Duncan fights in regular clothes and takes down a Sardaukar with an awesome move then later i believe he has a stillsuit ( must be when he sacrifices himself so Paul and Jessica can escape), anyone agree?
- religious looking folk visiting Leto - fron center an african american man? Looked like Bene Gesserit but who is that man ( unless it's a really manly looking woman, in which case i aplogize)? Could also be the Navigator Guild coming to meet Leto.
- dude who says "Come with me", could that be Jamis ( don't remember him be any kind of friendly with Paul)?
Much more action than the first but then again the Fall of House Atreides should be brought properly to the screen. Still love the art design of the movie, every House and differing element has a unique feel to it and it seems to also fit and enhance these elements.
Small character moments before the storm breaks ( i loved Momoas' Idaho making fun of Paul in a deadpan way, just my style of humor), fantastic battle scenes and the score of the trailer, especially that female singer at the end who seems to tear up her vocal chords to this bit is just too awesome ( i hope this makes it into the movie somehow).
Questions:
- Paul fighting Sardaukar in what seems like a hardsuit and not a stillsuit. Vision of the Future, scene from the second movie when they retake Dune from the Harkonnens and the Emperor ( did they already film the second movie?) or what? Anyway it looked awesome.
- Duncan fights in regular clothes and takes down a Sardaukar with an awesome move then later i believe he has a stillsuit ( must be when he sacrifices himself so Paul and Jessica can escape), anyone agree?
- religious looking folk visiting Leto - fron center an african american man? Looked like Bene Gesserit but who is that man ( unless it's a really manly looking woman, in which case i aplogize)? Could also be the Navigator Guild coming to meet Leto.
- dude who says "Come with me", could that be Jamis ( don't remember him be any kind of friendly with Paul)?
Speculation (including the posts right before yours) is that moment is from one of Paul's visions. They have not filmed the second film, which is part of the reason why Denis Villeneuve is so upset about the simultaneous on release HBO Max. We're all hoping the film does well enough so we can get the rest of the original novel filmed.
CBC Gem. For some reason they think people will actually pay for the 24-hour news network when it's part of most basic cable packages.The guys defending it too while claiming "I said 'possibly' so it's not click bait fake news"
We don't have Hulu in Canada although our Disney+ just got updated with a lot of its content.
We don't have ad supported tiers for anything that I'm aware of.
Nope. Years ago when The Handmaid's Tale was in its first season, they weren't even going to bother making it available in Canada (we don't have Hulu), but I guess somebody realized that the people complaining had a point: The show was based on a never-out-of-print novel by one of Canada's premier authors, filmed in and around Toronto, employed lots of Canadians as tech people and extras... yet Canadians weren't going to be able to (legally) watch it?
So they put it on Bravo! (now CTV Drama; it costs extra) and had a delay of TEN DAYS between when the Americans got to see the episodes and when we got to see them. It made it damned frustrating trying to discuss it here, because by the time I'd seen the previous episode, everyone was already talking about the one I hadn't seen yet.
Then they cut it down to a week for season 2, then several days for season 3. Season 4 is the first time we were permitted to watch each episode in the same 24 hours as when it was on Hulu.
Never ask non-SF/F fans to help organize your books and videos. So help me, I had to explain the difference between fiction and non-fiction to two college-educated people (asking them to separate the Star Trek books from the rest was fruitless because they claimed they didn't know how to tell if something was a Star Trek book and just looked at me with blank expressions when I told them, "It says 'Star Trek' on the front cover"). So I finally asked them to separate fiction from non-fiction (I have an extensive library of non-fiction books on a variety of topics including history, science, and Canadian politics), and they couldn't even do that.
And then there was the time when the housekeeper's wife decided to be "helpful" and shelved every friggin' DAW book together just because they all had yellow spines. No attention was paid to genre, author, or series, or even if it was a novel or anthology. I had to redo all of it (several hundred books). Considering that some authors were published by multiple publishers (some of my Dumarest of Terra books are the UK editions and don't have yellow spines), it was frustrating.
For videos/VHS (I still have some), it goes by genre, franchise, and what fits on the shelf, as some of them have cases with very weird shapes and sizes.
Not reading Messiah and Children is like watching Star Wars but ignoring Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. These three novels are essentially Paul's part of the story. God Emperor is about Leto II and Duncan Idaho and Leto's rambling plan for humanity (sorry, I don't see the point of using spoiler tags for a novel that's been out for nearly 40 years). Heretics and Chapterhouse are two-thirds of what was supposed to be a final trilogy, with the main focus on the Bene Gesserit vs the Tleilaxu, with a side helping of Duncan Idaho and a mysterious enemy that we never actually get to know about since Herbert died before he could finish Dune 7.
That whole scene of the Imperial Court on the move, with people heading off in all different directions resulted in an ongoing argument on Arrakeen forum. The others didn't see the point of parts of it, including Irulan's presence, and especially her costume. I pointed out that her getup set the stage for showing us a society that could well be described as Byzantine. Irulan's costume looked over the top ridiculous and impractical precisely to show that she was of such high rank that she could actually wear that sort of thing for everyday, since she had no shortage of servants to do everything and she never needed to worry about her fancy gown and veils getting in the way. And she was only one small part of the imperial society of Kaitain.
Irulan's outfits in the miniseries were still ridiculous-looking (that butterfly dress...
), but they were a bit more practical. Slightly. She finally dressed for practicality in Children of Dune.Ironic, since they essentially spat on FH's established canon and refused to cooperate with Dr. McNelly regarding the possibility of basing a Butlerian Jihad novel/trilogy on the Dune Encyclopedia's version, rather than the cartoonish mess that was actually published.
Fremen standing around on the desert, wasting their body's moisture by not wearing their stillsuits properly. Just like the Lynch movie. The miniseries did a more accurate depiction of the stillsuits.
The point of having Irulan do the narration is because the original novel is partially set up as one of Irulan's history books, so it makes sense that she would explain things - she's a historian, or at least a decently-competent amateur.
Sounds like you're describing the pointlessly gender-swapped Liet-Kynes, Imperial Planetologist, who is actually Chani's father in the book, but for some reason they decided to change that.
Jamis was never friendly with Paul, no.
I think this is going to do huge numbers on HBOMax as well as a pretty good box office haul.
The gender of Kynes is of no importance storywise, the genders of Bene Gesserit and Paul are so i was wondering who that was ( if the robed and hooded figures in the back were Bene Gesserit).
I'm more worried that it's going to tank along the lines of Blade Runner 2049; Dune is not exactly an action-packed book, and this trailer showed us pretty much all of the action sequences that happen in the first half of the book. I have a gut feeling that audience feeling is going to turn hard after the opening weekend, once word gets out that it's a lot talkier than the trailers are suggesting.
