Spoilers DSC: Wonderlands by Una McCormack Review Thread

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Markonian, May 18, 2021.

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  1. Damian

    Damian Commodore Commodore

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    Could he be referring to Roddenberry's son who's an executive producer. Was the Burn his idea maybe?
     
  2. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    Unlikely. "Rod" Roddenberry is a money man, not a writer. He and Trevor Roth run the kind of production company that's strictly an investor and financial partner in other people's productions rather than a creative contributor. I gather he's entitled to consult and give notes, like any executive producer, but he's not a member of the writing staff.
     
  3. Damian

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    Ok. Thought it was probably a stretch, but it was all I could think of, unless Gene Roddenberry had some secret stash of Star Trek notes we never heard of.
     
  4. David cgc

    David cgc Admiral Premium Member

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    Maybe its similarity to the premise of “Andromeda”?
     
  5. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    I am referring to the essential premise that got sold as Andromeda. The Federation has fallen, people from the past who remember its glory days must rebuild it.
     
  6. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    It's not quite the same, though. The Federation didn't fall, it was just fragmented and weakened. Also, in Andromeda -- and in the original Genesis II/Planet Earth concept it was reworked from -- there was no mystery about the reason for the disaster.
     
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  7. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    True, though depending on how long DISCO runs, the Burn was only a mystery for one season.
     
  8. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    Beside the point, since the issue is whether the initial concept was the same as Andromeda's. It's broadly similar, but distinct enough that it's facile and reductive to claim that the premise of the Burn was "Roddenberry's idea." Especially since Roddenberry's idea was set on Earth in 2133 in the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust, and was massively retooled by Robert Hewitt Wolfe to make it a space show. And Roddenberry was arguably just doing a variation on Buck Rogers.
     
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  9. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    You are correct and I withdraw my claim.
     
  10. Damian

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    I just got my copy of season 3 of Discovery on Blu-Ray and watched the first episode of the 3rd season and I wanted to throw another plug Wonderlands' way. I'm finding having read that book before starting season 3 has actually been a big help. Much like reading The Enterprise War before season 2 helped, reading Wonderlands has given me a lot of background that helped me get up to speed with where we are at to start season 3. I'm not having to try to figure all the foundational stuff, like what the Burn refers to, where the Federation and Starfleet are at, why the Discovery hasn't appeared yet.

    Yet at the same time the novel didn't really spoil anything. It just laid the groundwork so I could immediately get on board with the season itself.

    So if someone hasn't seen season 3 yet, I'd recommend reading the novel before starting. It's largely spoiler free, yet informative at the same time.

    Also, it's nice to see some of the characters in action. In particular Book. He was well developed in the novel (one of McCormack's strengths as a writer I thought has been character development so no surprise there). And I already like his character in the show. I'm actually glad Discover went far into the future. There's probably a lot more room for story development being that far distant from the 23rd and 24th centuries. I'm hoping Season 3 pans out as well as it's started.
     
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  11. Garak234

    Garak234 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Who controlled Starbase 906 after rhe fall of the white palm?
     
  12. Garak234

    Garak234 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    And did any of the original 906 Starfleet crew survive?
     
  13. Garak234

    Garak234 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    while Sahil managed to have a reliable core of Courier mercs, Pennington successfully purchased SB 906 allies leaving it isolated
     
  14. Markonian

    Markonian Fleet Admiral Moderator

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    Pa'Dan, the Cardassian courier, was given command of SB906 by Burnham after the White Palm's defeat.
    No Starfleet personnel survived, to maintain how FedHQ was Burnham's first meeting with 32nd century Starfleet beyond acting comms chief Sahil.