Spoilers DSC: The Enterprise War by John Jackson Miller Review Thread

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  1. Ronald Held

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    Not certain any, but slower going than other novels.
     
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  2. WebLurker

    WebLurker Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Just finished it. Really liked it.
     
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  3. thribs

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    Finally finished it. It was pretty good. Was a bit boring for the first 200 pages or so but it built up from there. like how it gave more reasoning as to what happened to the Enterprise at the start of season 2 of Discovery. It's a shame that the Red Angel story was really bad as they could have been a good tease towards it.
     
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  4. Ronald Held

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    Yes 100 pages in and some parts are tedious to get through.
     
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  6. DEWLine

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    Just finished mine today. Good reading. Trying to sort out my own thoughts about it beyond that.
     
  7. thribs

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    So who did people imagine while reading it? To me it was always Jeffery Hunter and the old style Enterprise.
    The suits reminded me of the ones in JI Joe. :)
     
  8. Ronald Held

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    Not certain if I "hear" Jeffery or Anson.
     
  9. Damian

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    I started reading this book yesterday and am up to chapter 11. Maybe because I have yet to see season 2 of Discovery I've been sort of visualizing the story a la "The Cage" (except when Discovery characters are mentioned). I've pictured Hunter as Pike, Nimoy as Spock, Hoyt as Boyce, etc.

    I noticed some other characters mentioned--I believe they are characters that have been featured in other original series books that take place during Pikes' command, which is interesting. It seems Miller is trying to straddle the line between making it feel like it's in the Discovery universe, but consistent with the original series and even trying to make ties where possible to other novels that take place during that period of time.

    I've always enjoyed that aspect of novels. How do we take things that don't always appear to fit nice and neatly and make them fit nice and neatly through creative storytelling. I notice he even includes a mention of the mission featured in "Desperate Hours" and even how Spock and Burnham had worked together there but were nonetheless distant (I assume to explain why she is not mentioned in the original series by Spock).
     
  10. JD

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    That's not why she's never mentioned in The Original Series.
     
  11. Damian

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    Well, I know the 'real-world' reason is that she wasn't created yet. I was just talking about an in story reason that makes plausible sense.
     
  12. Christopher

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    Spock never mentioned his fiancee, his parents, or his half-brother until he had to, so it's not like we need a reason why he wouldn't mention his sister either. Heck, it would've been out of character if he had.
     
  13. The Wormhole

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    The season 2 finale of Disco actually does provide a concrete and definite reason for why Spock never mentions Michael in TOS.
     
  14. Christopher

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    Albeit one that absolutely does not make plausible sense. You don't cover up a person's entire existence in order to classify one incident they were involved in.
     
  15. Captain_Oblivious

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    It's the first one in a while which I found myself tearing through in just a couple days.

    I rather liked the "Early Voyages" characters popping up here and there, I must say!
     
  16. King Daniel Beyond

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    Welcome to Star Trek.
     
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  17. thribs

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    Mainly Discovery. :)
     
  18. Damian

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    True enough. Still, it was nice to see it thrown in for good measure.

    Plus it sounds like from the hints above that there maybe be additional reasons Jackson threw it in there from season 2 of Discovery, and maybe less to do than I thought with explaining why Spock never mentioned her to Kirk and co. (though since Pike and some of his officers were aware of Burnham I would imagine Kirk would be aware of her and we just never heard of her--I mean obviously because this is a later show, but in story). Makes me wonder where Burnham is by the time Kirk takes command of the Enterprise. Is she still in Starfleet or retired....or even dead? It'll be interesting to see if that's ever answered.
     
  19. Christopher

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    Clearly you haven't seen the end of season 2 yet.
     
  20. Damian

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    No. I don't stream so I have to wait until it comes out on Blu-Ray in November before I'll see season 2. The last time I saw Discovery was when the Enterprise showed up at the end of season 1. I do know a few very broad strokes about what to expect (Captain Pike and Spock appear for instance, not surprising since the Enterprise appeared) but that's about all. I know nothing about the storylines from season 2 at this point.

    I know, I'm like a dinosaur. I still have cable :ack:. The closest I get to streaming is watching YouTube videos on my computer.

    BUT, the advantage to me is right now there is a Star Trek out there that will be all new to me.

    But I infer from you comment that season 2 will answer my question about where Burnham is by the mid to late 2260s. Very interesting.