Poll DS9 - Relationships

[Captain pl1ngpl0ng]

^ it's partly true, but i think Ziyal meant more to Garak than that,
they where the two only cardassians on the station with no place to go,
so it's natural that they gravitated towards eachother.
i dont think it was unhealthy at all.... of course, she died, so there's that...

 

[PSGarak]

They shoehorned in Ziyal to make Berman happy when he didn't care for the feedback they were getting from Bashir and Garak getting close. I agree with what Behr said in the documentary. They should have had the guts to capitalize on the acting chemistry between Robinson and Siddig and pulled the Garak Bashir trigger. Maybe the suits would have nixed it, but they didn't even try.

Ziyal was practically a child. Robinson hated that they turned the relationship romantic and commented more than once that the actress who played her for the romantic part of it looked almost exactly like his granddaughter. He found it disturbing. The age and experience difference was pretty gross, IMO.

I loved Rom and Leeta, The Grand Nagus and Moogie, and Miles and Keiko. Rom and Leeta because they loved each other for who they were and were willing to fight to work through their cultural differences, the Nagus and Moogie because they were both strong people who managed to find equality in a serious power imbalance, and Miles and Keiko because their marriage was a very realistic portrayal of what it's like to make a relationship work in the long haul.

 

[Captain pl1ngpl0ng]

i need to watch that documentary ..
i'm just finished with season 7 again so it would be perfect to watch it now.

 

[PSGarak]

i need to watch that documentary ..
i'm just finished with season 7 again so it would be perfect to watch it now.

It really would be good timing. I think you'll get a lot out of it.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Another of the one shot ones I like, Quark and the Cardassian dissident.

I agree Garak/Ziyal should have been more of a Lost in Translation style close friendship.

 

[PSGarak]

Another of the one shot ones I like, Quark and the Cardassian dissident.

I agree Garak/Ziyal should have been more of a Lost in Translation style close friendship.

I loved Quark and Lang. I've said elsewhere, they managed a weird sort of Bogie and Bacall vibe. And that sort of friendship would have been wonderful to see.

 

[kkt]

I loved Quark and Lang. I've said elsewhere, they managed a weird sort of Bogie and Bacall vibe. And that sort of friendship would have been wonderful to see.

I enjoyed the episode. I'm a fan of Casablanca too. Quark and Lang did have chemistry, but if they really loved each other, where was the obstacle? Rick and Ilsa couldn't be together because she was married to Victor Laszlo, and in Hollywood movies in 1942 there was no such thing as leaving your spouse just because you loved someone else. There was no Victor Laszlo analog in Profit and Loss, just Lang's dissident students. All the same, it would have been great to see Lang and the students again near the end of the war.
I hope they weren't killed.

 

[Prax]

I voted Quark and Grillka. They were great together.

 

[Qonundrum]

For the poll's choice, it's Miles/Keiko. They had the best sci-fi storylines.

I'd also opine for Julian and Miles, or Garak and Julian. Not all relationships have to have a sexual component. And if they were, I'm happy for them as much as any other fictional "shipping". In part because any relationship is a relationship, not all are sexual, our society tends to fixate on the reproductive act above all else*, and if they're not harming anyone then it doesn't matter?

* how can a society that "gets it" come across even more desperate in its stories than incels in real life? Oh, the draaaaaaaaaaaaama. Melodrama...

 

[Beckerjr]

Any list needs Garak and Bashir along with the ultimate “bromance” of Miles and Bashir.

 

[Captain pl1ngpl0ng]

For the poll's choice, it's Miles/Keiko. They had the best sci-fi storylines.

I'd also opine for Julian and Miles, or Garak and Julian. Not all relationships have to have a sexual component. And if they were, I'm happy for them as much as any other fictional "shipping". In part because any relationship is a relationship, not all are sexual, our society tends to fixate on the reproductive act above all else*, and if they're not harming anyone then it doesn't matter?

* how can a society that "gets it" come across even more desperate in its stories than incels in real life? Oh, the draaaaaaaaaaaaama. Melodrama...

Any list needs Garak and Bashir along with the ultimate “bromance” of Miles and Bashir.

Yeah i agree they need to be on the list. Relationships are also close friendships.
i added them both

Good list but you didn't include Julien's relationships with Melora and with Ezri, and you also neglected Quark and Natima, from Profit and Loss. She was clearly the love of his life.

Yes Melora and Natima need to be there also, so added.

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i added Jadzia & Lenara ... that was too intense to leave out.
So you may now vote for 5 ... i probably still forgot someone.... i'm sure of it=)

 

[Captain pl1ngpl0ng]

... i probably still forgot someone.... i'm sure of it=)

sure... Julien & Ezri, adding now. Julien has been around tho....
Edit: Garak & Zyial !!!... how many damn relationships are there on this station????
Edit2: mirror Ki... NAH...

 

[Prax]

sure... Julien & Ezri, adding now. Julien has been around tho....
Edit: Garak & Zyial !!!... how many damn relationships are there on this station????
Edit2: mirror Ki... NAH...

Kira and Shakar was a pretty big one

If you did an MU, you could have:
Sisko and Kira
Sisko and Jennifer
Sisko and Jadzia

 

[HelenofBorg]

Garak/Julian definitely. They had obvious chemistry from the get go, but the producers unfortunately decided that Star Trek wasn't ready for a gay couple. That said, it was interesting to see how many lies Garak would tell him and Julian kept going back to hear more. I will never forget the day Julian told him the story of the boy who cried wolf, and Garak insisted that the moral was 'never tell the same lie twice'. There is quite a bit of fanfic out there featuring Garak and Bashir.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

That said, it was interesting to see how many lies Garak would tell him and Julian kept going back to hear more. I will never forget the day Julian told him the story of the boy who cried wolf, and Garak insisted that the moral was 'never tell the same lie twice'. There is quite a bit of fanfic out there featuring Garak and Bashir.

Unfortunately, it was the type of image of a gay man that the 1990s did not need. It seems that most characters, who were in movies, who were LGBT were untrustworthy.

 

[kkt]

Whereas everything Garak said, you could absolutely rely upon...

 

[Captain pl1ngpl0ng]

It really would be good timing. I think you'll get a lot out of it.

I watched it, loved it..... now i just want to start ds9 from the beginning again...
well... i think i take Voyager for a spin first, i was meaning to see TNG again tho.. ... hm..

Kira and Shakar was a pretty big one
If you did an MU, you could have:
Sisko and Kira
Sisko and Jennifer
Sisko and Jadzia

Yeah it would maybe be more complete, but im not sure i should "count" the MU...
ahh yes, Shakar......!

Whereas everything Garak said, you could absolutely rely upon...

Especially the lies were true=)

 

[Captain pl1ngpl0ng]

Yes it's very exciting!! I don't have a closing date but lets announce a winning couple on sunday..

 

[Bad Thoughts]

In the back: "Was that Hawk?"

 

[Captain pl1ngpl0ng]