DS9 in a nutshell.
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I don't know...a lot of people consider S6 & S7 to be the best seasons of DS9. I myself fall into that category. 
I think it more accurately describes Buffy.
I don't know...a lot of people consider S6 & S7 to be the best seasons of DS9. I myself fall into that category.
Why?
If you move seasons 1 and 2 from the beginning of the series to between seasons 6 and 7, it matches The West Wing fairly well, though the end of the fourth season (which would match season 6 here) was spectacular.
I think the chart may be more of a 90s phenomenon. Modern shows seem to come to the air more fully formed than shows from that time often did.
I think the chart may be more of a 90s phenomenon. Modern shows seem to come to the air more fully formed than shows from that time often did.
I don't know...a lot of people consider S6 & S7 to be the best seasons of DS9. I myself fall into that category.
Why?
Two words: Dominion War.
That in itself is enough, but additionally, these seasons contain some of my favorite episodes of the show as well: Favor the Bold/Sacrifice of Angels, Statistical Probabilities, The Magnificent Ferengi, Waltz, Inquisition, In the Pale Moonlight, Chrysalis, Treachery Faith & the Great River, The Siege of AR-558, It's Only a Paper Moon, Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges, and the entire 10-episode Last Chapter.
I don't think so. I thought that the 7th season of the show really was fantastic, with the exception of Ezri Dax. It's hard to flesh out a character that has its introduction in the LAST season of the show.
Some of the best episodes came from this season. The Siege of AR-558, What You Leave Behind.
Notably as a youngster, I remember watching What You Leave Behind, and thinking that it was a total crapshoot. "Ugh," I thought, "I can't believe the gall of these writers. Ending with the stupid stuff about the Prophets and Sisko and fire. Idiocy!" I believe I even started a thread on this site years ago about how much the DS9 Finale disappointed me. However recently I rewatched the whole series (which surprisingly has held up quite well through the years with notable exceptions--every show has its lemon episodes
). And there was the brilliant link in I believe the third season?, where Sisko is questioned as possibly not being the Emissary by all of Bajor. As he walks off with the Vedek at the end of the ep, you hear the Vedek mention words like 'emissary' and 'trial by fire.' And that to me was beautiful. Suddenly the finale made sense. The series was a fantastic circle. And that's just wonderful.
I can't help but disagree with this in the context of all three 90s Trek shows, actually. Some have expressed negative feelings toward various episodes in TNG's seventh season (indeed, there were probably more bombs in that one than there had been since the third year) but it still had plenty of good moments. And Brent Spiner isn't alone when he tells people the sixth season was TNG's best.
As for DS9, I know there is some hatred of the show's resolution, particularly the very mystical ordeal in the final year. (Hey, Ronald D. Moore was big on that show's staff at that time, you know.) I, for one, thought that thematically it worked quite nicely and I have only mild reservations concerning the finale. And, again, the sixth year was stellar and many fans agree on that one.
Finally, in regard to Voyager, I really don't remember much of the show. I'm doing a full-on franchise run-through at the moment; I'm currently in the first half of TNG's fourth season, so it will be a while until I get to the Delta Quadrant. That said, I know a lot of folks who think the show really peaked in the fourth and fifth years, and that the last two years stumbled... but I don't remember them being terrible, per se. And it seems like semi-common belief among the sites I've been to that the seventh year was a bit better than the sixth, anyway.
As for DS9, I know there is some hatred of the show's resolution, particularly the very mystical ordeal in the final year. (Hey, Ronald D. Moore was big on that show's staff at that time, you know.) I, for one, thought that thematically it worked quite nicely and I have only mild reservations concerning the finale. And, again, the sixth year was stellar and many fans agree on that one.
Finally, in regard to Voyager, I really don't remember much of the show. I'm doing a full-on franchise run-through at the moment; I'm currently in the first half of TNG's fourth season, so it will be a while until I get to the Delta Quadrant. That said, I know a lot of folks who think the show really peaked in the fourth and fifth years, and that the last two years stumbled... but I don't remember them being terrible, per se. And it seems like semi-common belief among the sites I've been to that the seventh year was a bit better than the sixth, anyway.
Oh, don't get the wrong idea. I did laugh. I just felt like voicing my opinion regarding it applying to DS9.
Trust me, it is fairly amusing though. See, I'm one of the rare blokes (at least, blokes who are still very vocal about it) who loved every single season of Stargate SG-1, but I know so many people who would agree that season seven was where it simply had to end, and then season eight was where it had its last chance to go out well. A little different from what your comic stated, but still true, to them.
Trust me, it is fairly amusing though. See, I'm one of the rare blokes (at least, blokes who are still very vocal about it) who loved every single season of Stargate SG-1, but I know so many people who would agree that season seven was where it simply had to end, and then season eight was where it had its last chance to go out well. A little different from what your comic stated, but still true, to them.
Ha, there is a bit of truth in that, but DS9's quality did hold up fairly well right to the end, even though quite a few flaws started to creep in there in Seasons 6 and 7. If it had gone beyond seven seasons, things might have started to decline more noticeably.
TNG might match that model better.
TNG might match that model better.
Indeed. Although TNG's final season wasn't bad, and had quite a few memorable episodes, many nonetheless agree that it was still the weakest year since at least the third, if not the second. There were just too many subpar outings and even a couple of rather dreadful ones.
Averaged out from the P5 poll the seasons are ranked like this: 4, 3, 5, 2, 1 and the creative team was one person the entire time building from the same notes he used for years.
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With B5, with first half of Season 1 corresponds to Season 1 from that article and the second half corresponds to Season 2. Seasons 2, 3 and 4 are Seasons 3, 4 and 5. After that it gets tricky, because the first half of Season 5 is a lot weaker than Season 4, whereas the second half returns to something like the quality of the middle seasons, albeit not without some issues.
JoeD80 - To be fair, there are 18 episodes of B5 that JMS didn't write. Some of them are even pretty good!
