Drop the S31 show for a Captain Pike show?

[Tuskin38]

The S31 show is still listed in CBS's June sell sheet for Star Trek on their Consumer products website. All it says is that it will star Michelle Yeoh. So as of June they're still considering it a future show.
http://www.cbsconsumerproducts.com/startrek/pdf/StarTrekOverview06-2019.pdf

Side note, CBS marketing apparently considers the 3 Kelvin Timeline movies as 'Classic Trek' lmao.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Side note, CBS marketing apparently considers the 3 Kelvin Timeline movies as 'Classic Trek' lmao.

Well, they wete classics

 

[Mudd]

Yeoh is likely to be busy for a chunk of 2020 shooting back-to-back Crazy Rich Asians sequels, which is a much bigger deal than a Star Trek streaming series. It's not unlikely that announcing the Section 31 series so far before any work - or contracts - had been done was an attempt to seize some momentum presented by the success of the first film, anyway.

This is called "development hell." Lots of talk, no commitments.

 

[UssGlenn]

I think the S31 show is going to quietly fade away. These sort of early announcements are so often used to gauge audience interest. The answer here was a resounding no.

 

[Mudd]

Well, in addition to Picard, hiring and/or production has moved forward on the two animated Trek projects. Section 31? Nothing.

 

[Tuskin38]

The answer here was a resounding no.

Not really. The resounding answer was Pike instead of S31, not 'no' altogether.

 

[Noname Given]

Interesting, you would think they would have got her signed up in preparation for it to make sure she is available.

Is CBS considering making changes to their plans, there has been a lot of interest in a Pike show but very little for the S31 show, I am fine with both of course.

Kurtzman stated Michelle Yeoh approach him about doing more (which lead to the idea for the 'Section 31' series; but they're not going to hammer out any contractual details until they have the particulars ironed out and a tentative shooting schedule, etc. Patrick Stewart is going to be 80 in 2020, so it makes sense that if he says 'yes' to a series, they are going to really fast track it - which they did.

Star Trek Discovery's development for first announced in November 2015. 'Section 31' was announced as 'being developed' in January 2019 There's been stories that the details and story line are being developed:

https://trekmovie.com/2019/03/11/cbs-executive-gives-status-update-on-star-trek-section-31-series/

It’s worth noting that the way Stapf is talking makes it sound like the Section 31 show is set to go, however, CBS has yet to officially confirm a full series order. When it was officially announced in January, CBS only stated the show was in development, something confirmed later at the TCA event, but it was also confirmed at the same event that showrunners Bo Yeoh Kim and Erika Lippoldt were at already at work and “breaking the story.”

And

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-section-31-spinoff-filming-start/

But yeah, they're currently in production with two live action series (Star Trek: Picard was sooting the last 3 of Season 1 and Star Trek Discovery just started filming Season 3), so yeah, that 'Section 31' is still in development and hasn't gotten an order yet isn't all that surprising with all they have on their plate. The series order could be weeks away, a couple months away, or yeah, they could decide not to go with it; but again, I think CBS would be very happy to get Michelle Yeoh to headline a Star Trek series that has the potential to bring in new fans worldwide who might not give Trek a look, but time will tell.

And yeah, as to the comment:

"there has been a lot of interest in a Pike show but very little for the S31..."
^^^
Please. There was nothing but virtol from a majority of Trek fandom as soon as more concrete details leaked about 'Star trek: Discovery' - and hell unfounded rumors "Discovery's SO BAD CBSAA will never air it, and is scrambling for a replacement...", etc.

Heck, from the comments of a few on the BBS (not the person I'm replying too, this is a general comment from me); who can't believe 'Star trek: Discovery' was able to bring any new fans (for whom this is the first Star Trek series they've seen, or become interested in) -- but it has, as ALL NEW incarnations of Star trek have.

In the end, I don't think the fact that there's no episode order at this point means CBS is considering dumping plans for the Section 31 series. With two Live action series in active production concurrently, three already order animated series in concurrent production, and six 'Short Treks' in post production; I'd say they're very busy right now, and the 'Section 31' series development is continuing <--- Or at least we've heard no claim to the contrary from TPTB.

 

[Gonzo]

Yeoh is likely to be busy for a chunk of 2020 shooting back-to-back Crazy Rich Asians sequels, which is a much bigger deal than a Star Trek streaming series. It's not unlikely that announcing the Section 31 series so far before any work - or contracts - had been done was an attempt to seize some momentum presented by the success of the first film, anyway.

This is called "development hell." Lots of talk, no commitments.

I think the S31 show is going to quietly fade away. These sort of early announcements are so often used to gauge audience interest. The answer here was a resounding no.

Well, in addition to Picard, hiring and/or production has moved forward on the two animated Trek projects. Section 31? Nothing.

It is making me wonder a bit about how serious CBS is about the S31 show, as I have said before I have no problem with a S31 show as I enjoyed the S31 storylines in DS9 and was ok with what we got in S1&2 of Discovery.

I wouldnt be surprised if the overwhelming interest shown for the Pike series makes CBS rethink the schedule moving forward, they could just as easily leave Georgiou in the future with the Discovery rather than return for the S31 show, or they can go ahead with the show with Tyler as the lead instead.

Definitely felt like the early announcement was an attempt to gauge public interest in the show as USSGlenn said, problem is having such a long interval between the announcement and the show airing is not going to help at all.

 

[Cake]

Yeoh is likely to be busy for a chunk of 2020 shooting back-to-back Crazy Rich Asians sequels, which is a much bigger deal than a Star Trek streaming series. It's not unlikely that announcing the Section 31 series so far before any work - or contracts - had been done was an attempt to seize some momentum presented by the success of the first film, anyway.

This is called "development hell." Lots of talk, no commitments.

Don't forget Avatar 2, 3, 4, and 5. At least the later two won't be finished anytime soon. Scheduling might become a nightmare. In DIS she wasn't in every episode and in the episodes she was in she didn't always have a big role. In Section 31 though she will be the lead and has to be there for months every day. I still think they will do the series, but it might be delayed and won't start filming directly after season 3 of DIS if Yeoh is too busy.

 

[Lord Garth]

There will likely be a Pike Series announced in Vegas. More likely than not. If the people who want it get it, then they should stop making a big deal about a Section 31 Series if they wanted Pike instead. At that point, an S31 Series wouldn't effect the existence of a Pike Series one way or the other. Unless they're insistent that absolutely everything must be their way and their way alone.

 

[Noname Given]

There will likely be a Pike Series announced in Vegas. More likely than not. If the people who want it get it, then they should stop making a big deal about a Section 31 Series if they wanted Pike instead. At that point, an S31 Series wouldn't effect the existence of a Pike Series one way or the other. Unless they're insistent that absolutely everything must be their way and their way alone.

And the reverse could be true too - IE Michelle Yeoh could come on a panel and they could announce that 'Section 31' will start filming after ST: D season 3 wraps. Anything is possible.

Would I like a 'Section 31' series with Michelle Yeoh? Yes.
Would I like a 'Pike' series? Yes.

The 23rd century is my favorite Trek era. I'll gravitate to any show that takes place in that universe. I also like other genres and Michelle Yeoh is a great Asian action film star, so yeah, I'll gravitate to anything with her in it as well. I don't see why people somehow think it needs to be one or the other WRT a 'Section 31' or a 'Pike' series.

 

[Cake]

There will likely be a Pike Series announced in Vegas. More likely than not. If the people who want it get it, then they should stop making a big deal about a Section 31 Series if they wanted Pike instead. At that point, an S31 Series wouldn't effect the existence of a Pike Series one way or the other. Unless they're insistent that absolutely everything must be their way and their way alone.

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/georgiou-section-31-series-officially-announced.297770/

This thread was started before season 2 of DIS has even started and the opinions about the Section 31 series were already divided back then. So I don't think the dislike of S31 has much to do with people wanting a Pike series instead.

 

[Lord Garth]

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/georgiou-section-31-series-officially-announced.297770/

This thread was started before season 2 of DIS has even started and the opinions about the Section 31 series were already divided back then. So I don't think the dislike of S31 has much to do with people wanting a Pike series instead.

I'm not saying it did. But I'm talking about the specific few people who currently think it's an either/or deal, or who'd want it to be an either/or deal. If we are getting a Pike Series, then they have nothing to hide behind anymore in regards to a Section 31 Series other than, "I just don't want it!"

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/georgiou-section-31-series-officially-announced.297770/

This thread was started before season 2 of DIS has even started and the opinions about the Section 31 series were already divided back then. So I don't think the dislike of S31 has much to do with people wanting a Pike series instead.

And I believe the first 2 voting options were the only options when the majority of votes were cast, and it was edited later to have more options.

 

[Lord Garth]

Anyway, I think people who hate Discovery but want a Pike Series won't like a Pike Series either. It will very most likely still have a continuing storyline and that's just for starters.

For those who complain about "SJWs!!!!", we've seen the bridge crew on the Enterprise in "Such Sweet Sorrow". A lot of women there. Their presence will tick off the "I want the 1950s back!" subset immediately. And they'll bark as soon as Pike doesn't put his foot down in the sternest possible fashion to "put them in their place".

For those who don't fit into that subset, but want a series that's like TOS, nothing made post-1969 will be TOS, but we'll probably see TOS/TNG/VOY style stories done in longer form. If you want your stories resolved in 45-50 minutes, you won't like that. And it will probably take Spock in places, as a character, that a lot of purists who have a very fixed idea about Spock won't like.

On top of that, it's very possible the Pike Series will pick up some story threads that Disco left behind. And, because of its setting, we'll continue to see some more TOS Characters, which we know the Anti-Fan Service Crowd hates. They're pulling the same routine with TNG/DS9/VOY Characters on Picard.

Overall, I think most of the people who want a Pike Series but hate Discovery are lying to themselves about what they hope the series will be. If you do like Discovery but also want something that focuses more on the Pike end of things, then that's the crowd I think this series is really for.

 

[thribs]

I think we need to stay away from the 23rd century and focus on what’s ahead.

 

[Mudd]

I think we need to stay away from the 23rd century and focus on what’s ahead.

The 23rd century is two centuries ahead of the 21st, and there never was much interesting going on in the 25th. So the hell with that.

 

[Cake]

And I believe the first 2 voting options were the only options when the majority of votes were cast, and it was edited later to have more options.

Only the last option wasn't there from the start.

 

[Lord Garth]

I think we need to stay away from the 23rd century and focus on what’s ahead.

You can. I'll focus on both. But the 23rd Century will always be my default go-to.

Even with Discovery shifting time-frames, the story is still being told from the point-of-view of a 23rd Century crew.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

The 23rd century is two centuries ahead of the 21st, and there never was much interesting going on in the 25th. So the hell with that.

That assumes the 25th century is mapped out so well you could say that.

The problem is that a lot of people are invested in the comfort of what they know and would happily learn a bit more about it, rather than be yanked out into the unfamiliar in true spirit of Star Trek.