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Dress and Good Grooming: Are We Becoming Slobs?

My workplace is business casual. I usually wear khakis and a button down shirt, sometimes a sport coat. When I go out with friends, I wear something similar, except I often substitute jeans.

When I walk my dog, I wear the shitiest clothes I own, generally tattered and stained old work clothes from various manual labour jobs I held in the past. My dog walking attire is so rough that I often get nervous looks from people I meet in isolated parks if they haven't seen the dog yet. :lol: Hey, she gets muddy and I'm not about to ruin my nice pants.
 
Spot's Meow said:
I wish that we could all wear pajamas, all the time. I hate dressing up. I'm all about comfort, and so far sweats are the most comfortable clothing that I have found. I don't care about fashion at all, I see clothes as a way to keep from being naked and to keep warm. Sure I will dress up and play nice for society's sake if I'm going somewhere fancy or to a job interview, but my inner self is perpetually in pajamas. As soon as I get home from class/work I change out of my jeans and into the pjs. I don't actually wear them out in public because it's not quite acceptable unless you're on a college campus (man I miss living in the dorms), but I wish I could. I think that what you wear can say something about you, and what I would like to wear says that I am a practical person who has no time for useless expensive things.
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I suspect you and I are twins separated at birth! :bolian:

And, in this town, MANY people go to the stupormarket in their jammies. I've done it a few times myself. Not that there's anything wrong with that........:lol:
 
Yeoman Randi said:
Spot's Meow said:
I wish that we could all wear pajamas, all the time. I hate dressing up. I'm all about comfort, and so far sweats are the most comfortable clothing that I have found. I don't care about fashion at all, I see clothes as a way to keep from being naked and to keep warm. Sure I will dress up and play nice for society's sake if I'm going somewhere fancy or to a job interview, but my inner self is perpetually in pajamas. As soon as I get home from class/work I change out of my jeans and into the pjs. I don't actually wear them out in public because it's not quite acceptable unless you're on a college campus (man I miss living in the dorms), but I wish I could. I think that what you wear can say something about you, and what I would like to wear says that I am a practical person who has no time for useless expensive things.
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I suspect you and I are twins separated at birth! :bolian:

And, in this town, MANY people go to the stupormarket in their jammies. I've done it a few times myself. Not that there's anything wrong with that........:lol:
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I just had an impure thought.
 
CorporalClegg said:
I agree with Jan. While I'm certainly not in Holdy's realm fashion meticulousness, I do try to make some effort. I think it presents an air of self-respect and earns the respect of others--as vapid as that may seem to some.
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Exactly. I dress casually, but I always try to wear "nice things": clean, well cared for clothes, and I try to look decent. I didn't used to feel that way---I would go out in baggy jeans and huge T-shirts, mostly because I was depressed; my mood reflected my clothes.

Now that I have a little more money and a lot more self-respect, I'll spend a bit more to find things that flatter me a bit more. It makes me feel better.

One trend that truly baffles me of late: I live in an upper-middle class suburban neighborhood, but at least twice in the past three months, I've seen grown women in the grocery store--between 5 and 7pm--in their pajamas, fuzzy slippers and all. Not sweats that LOOK like pjs, but actually flannel pjs with hearts and teddy bears on them.

Even uber-casual hubby stopped in his tracks and asked me, "Is she.......really?"

Yes, really. :vulcan:
 
Yeoman Randi said:
Axiom said:
When I feel good about myself, I am meticulously clean, with nice clean, pressed clothes, usually semi-formal, and I'm a joy to be near. ;)
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I suspect you are always a joy to be near. :)
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J., ace of hearts. ;)

Nick086 said:
If your fat it gonna be hard to find nice clothes to wear. I know a friend that went to Italy over the summer. They didn't have anything nice to wear for somebody that over weight. They did have nice clothes for anyone with a slim or average built.
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You should also add the fact that being "fat" in the US and in Italy means something very different. Very fat people in Italy are really rare, and so there is very little request for that size of dress. We do have "big guys" shops, but they are few and far between.
 
RoJoHen said:
Not to be nitpicky, but it's spelled "I've."
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And in the Uk we don't pick our I'vs in public.

Iv got you spotted mate, don't you think I'll be nice, I wasn't born yesterday.


Shame good manners go short on the internet! Someone is heading for the brig!
 
AstroSmurf said:
137th Gebirg said:
It has been my experience, in the IT/software development world, that people who dress up in the workplace couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. They wear the expensive suits to impress clueless managers and HR droids, and when they get the job and get thrown into the pit, they are woefully outclassed by the other guys who wear t-shirts and have a regular diet of Mountain Dew and Pixie Stix. They proceed to fuck up anything and everything they get their hands on without hesitation, try to pin the blame on everyone but themselves, and while the project their working on goes in the toilet, the so-called "slobs" are busting their asses trying to do continuous damage control instead of going forward. In the meantime, the fore-mentioned clueless managers and HR droids who hired the idiot are scratching their heads, not understanding why they're hearing all this complaining from the coworkers (and worse, clients) about why this one person has been sent to them, all the while thinking "how professional they always looked". Seen it more times than I can remember.

If I were an IT manager and I had a guy come in wearing a 3-piece suit, looking like a villain from Miami Vice, and a disheveled guy who looked a little worse for wear and knowing what the USS Reliant prefix code was from Star Trek II, I would always choose the latter, knowing he would get the job done, hands down.

Quality of dress is absolutely NO measure for the true professionalism of an individual and I'm tired of hearing people trying to legitimize it as such.

Pimps and gangsters dress nice, too, yes?
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It sounds like you need to fire your HR for incompetence. And having been an HR for better part of a decade, I say that with love. :vulcan: You NEVER just go by what you see. People are trained how to interview now and HR's have to be able to cut through the bull shit. And this is why references and checking with previous employers is a good thing.
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Oh, yes, if I had such authority, they would have all been updating their resumes and packing up their plastic potted plants. Unfortunately, office politics and protected people invariably breed general incompetence at these levels, all of whom are outside my pay grade. The managers are generally comfortable with complacency, so long as it doesn't affect their bottom line, and the HR people schmooze the managers and play their little numbers games to maintain their budgets and staff.

So long as they follow the tried-and-true mantra of "random motion as being the perception of progress", the vicious cycle endures and the rest of us are left picking up the pieces, for fear of losing our own jobs. And in this current economy, the stuffed shirts (the ones who wear the expensive suits we were talking about) KNOW we're scared for our jobs, never hesitate to say, "at least you have a job" and proceed to ass-rape us into the next fiscal year.

Now, you could say I could quit my job and find a better one if it was that bad. Yeah, I could, but I would likely only be half successful if I tried that now in this economy.

I think that about sums it up at this point. :vulcan:

And AstroSmurf, please don't get me wrong. I know there are good people out there who give 110% in everything they do. But you and I and they are the exception, not the rule, I'm afraid.
 
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I work in a warehouse so jeans and half decent top.
I have a old coat that i only wear to work because sometimes it can get cold and i do not want to damaged one of my decent coats.
I only own one pair of sweat pants and i only wear them in bed i would feel so uncomfortable being out in public in my sweat pants or PJs.
 
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It was certainly a unique response.

As for the Topic, some people seem to be confusing dress codes with hygiene; these are not the same thing.
 
RJDiogenes said:
It was certainly a unique response.

As for the Topic, some people seem to be confusing dress codes with hygiene; these are not the same thing.
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Agreed. Although I think we should all be wearing pajamas everywhere, I am still for cleanliness and proper grooming. Just because you're wearing jammies doesn't mean you literally rolled out of bed and out the door! At least not in my new suit-less, sweats-filled utopia.
 
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^ Or maybe a Flowbee disaster?

And those asymetrical haircuts everyone seems to be getting reminds me of something an Anime character would wear. Most of them look terrible animated so I am not sure why anyone would their hair cut like that in real life. Bleh. :cardie:
 
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