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Drawings of AMT 18" Enterprise Model?

Albertese

Albertese

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So hey guys!

I'm looking for some decent ortho drawings of the Enterprise as represented by the AMT model kit recently re-popped. I mean to do some modifications to my next build up of it and I'd like to plan it out in drawing form before committing anything to plastic. The specific version of the kit doesn't matter I guess (though one going waaaaay back to the '60's might be less useful, as I'm using the current one to build...)

If no one has such a thing just lying around, that's cool, I'll just draw my own. But I hope I can save some time...

Thanks!

--Alex
 
Never have gotten around to doing full orthos, but here's a side view...

AMT-side.jpg


This would be a pre-'76 version, btw.
 
Are you trying to plan out dimensions for your modifications or just want to get the general ideas visualized? Try just making some copies of the instruction sheet and sketch on that.
 
CRA: That's pretty cool. The only part that jumps out at me is the "command gondola" on the saucer. The bridge area of the current kit is radically different. But this is a useful beginning. Thanks!

Ziz said:
Are you trying to plan out dimensions for your modifications or just want to get the general ideas visualized? Try just making some copies of the instruction sheet and sketch on that.
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I'm trying to do both really. The paperwork included in the current kit is a simplified set of assembly instructions (which leave much to be desired) and a decal placement sheet which seems to be Sasser's artwork for the 1:1000 kit which is basically the profile of the 11' shooting mini. I seem to recall that the kits of the early '90's had more useful drawings on them, but I'm afraid I've lost those papers in the tumult of my misspent youth. Here I am 20 years later wishing I had a better filing system back when I was 12...

So let me describe some of my project....

I plan on running a tabletop RPG with some of my fellow nerd buddies. It's going to be set in a Star Trek-esque universe based loosely on the original series but fleshed out with material from the Franz Joseph Tech Manual and mixed with a dash of nBSG grittiness for flavor. (But not SFB, ya follow me?) My goal is to design at least one ship that gently re-imagines the old Connie in what will no doubt wind up being a slightly tarted up old AMT 18"er. I was partly inspired by some of the work by Vektor and deg on this very board!

But I want to begin with the 18" AMT for two reasons: 1) it's shape is different enough to be accepted to my generally TOS loyalist brain as a different design to begin with and; 2) it's the biggest kit currently on the shelves on local stores that I can tool around with, important since I do want a model of this thing once all is said and done.

Anyway, I suppose I'll just keep sketching for now and I'll likely wind up drafting my own set of measured orthos.

Thanks again guys!

--Alex
 
No better modified Connie to base it off of than Vektor's... his is the best and most beautiful I've seen yet.
 
I keep waffling on picking up a repopped 18" AMT Enterprise with the thought of accurizing it, but I'm daunted by how much has to be done. Yes, there are some accurizing parts available, but the saucer needs a lot of work and the accurizing saucer that was available doesn't seem to be out there anymore.

I like the scale of the AMT kit. I still kinda wish PL had gone larger than 1/1000 for their nice little kit. And that's why I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we'll finally get a 1/350 TOS Enterprise.
 
blssbwlf:

YES!!! That's it exactly! Could I trouble you to scan that for me? That'd be great.

Also, I'm planning to plan out the interior of this beast too and some of your ideas are pretty inspiring...

--Alex
 
Just so you know, those drawings in the directions are just direct copies of the FJ blueprints, and as such, don't bear a whole lot of resemblance to the kit.
 
Didn't get a chance to scan anything in last night - son was sick with a cold. Will try again after work today. I think CRA is right though as the secondary hull has that slight bulge on it as present in FJ's and MJ's drawings.
 
Ah, in that case don't worry about it. I already have all the FJ drawings. But thanks anyhow!


--Alex
 
Captain Robert April said:
Never have gotten around to doing full orthos, but here's a side view...

AMT-side.jpg


This would be a pre-'76 version, btw.
Click to expand...

Correction and full disclosure time, kids.

The above drawing is a modified pic I got from, I think, from Warped9, originally of an AMT kit altered to better match the eleven footer; I reverse engineered it to better match a '66 AMT. I've been going with it because the drawing I've done myself is full size, and thus too big to be easily scanned.

However, a little something was discovered in the above linked thread of Shaw's, specifically that the placement of the nacelle struts isn't same in the earlier moldings as it was in the later ones, of which Warped9's drawing appears to depict. There are also some significant differences in the dorsal.

So, I gots me some work to do...
 
I've been working on it in my spare time between other projects for clients. So there are times where I can get a lot done and periods where progress will be sort of slow. Still, I have a goal of finishing by the end of the month so I can start in on building the actual model.

Here is a quick-n-dirty assembly of some of the elements I've made some progress on so far.


I know there is still a lot of work needed, but it sort of gives a feel for the overall model.

And it should be noted (for those who haven't been following my project) that this isn't the Round 2 18" Enterprise model, this is based on the original AMT 18" model from 1966. The 18" models produced after about 1975 (including those currently in stores) have some significant differences, so these drawings wouldn't make a good reference for them (which is why I haven't added much to this thread).
 
Interesting. I've long thought that later versions started to look a bit malformed in some areas while better in others. The navigational deflector assembly got worse as did the A/B deck structure while the nacelles seemed to get a bit better.

All told the AMT kit wasn't a faithful representation of the TV Enterprise. It got enough right to pass a quick look, but once you start studying it you can't help but notice how much it deviates form the onscreen ship.

Even aftermarket accurizing could only help so much since the shapes and proportions of the major components are still off.
 
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