Don't suppose there's a chance season two will be a visual re-reboot.

[ATimson]

I'm not expecting them to demolish all the sets and start over from scratch, or completely replace their stock of 3D models (though, again, the Stargates had the odd practice of using multiple VFX houses, each of which seemed to make their own models from scratch which didn't necessarily match each other)....

Multiple effects houses wasn't that odd at the time. Deep Space Nine and Voyager both did the same thing (alternating between Digital Muse/Eden FX and Foundation Imaging). Not sharing models is more odd, but if the different houses were using different software they may not have had much choice.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Surprised nobody mentioned how drastically different the bird of prey bridge changed between STIII and STIV.

I just figured the Vulcans reconfigured everything to make it easier for the Enterprise crew to operate, and to make it compliant with Federation technical standards. Plus, Vulcan Intelligence probably tore apart the interior of the ship to study and/or reverse engineer the Klingon databanks, tech, and cloaking device.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

I, as well as many others, have mentioned this ad infinitum....

Must have skimmed those posts on this thread.

 

[Vger23]

It's pretty simple. The Enterprise and the other Constitution-class starships were designed and built by a different contractor, so they have different design elements from the other ships we see in DSC. The interiors, including the multi-colored uniforms, control surfaces and decor, are part of a Starfleet psychological experiment that people on stressful, deep space missions would perform better and be happier in bright, colorful environments. Given the long-range 5-year missions of the Constitutions, Starfleet figured they'd give this a try. There's absolutely nothing anywhere that says that Starfleet technology looks the same everywhere all the time within an era.

As someone mentioned on a different thread (and I've actually said in the past as well)...baldness is just "in" amongst the Klingons in the 2250's. It's feathered hair in the 80's or grunge music in the 90's...an intense but very passing fad.

See how easy that was? No need for a visual reboot or an aneurism about the design choices of the show and all that. It's just like saying that Chekov was on 3rd shift in Engineering during Space Seed, and that's how Khan must have known him. If we can make up inane excuses for other inconsistencies in Trek...I'm sure we can all do the same now.

Simple, simple stuff, folks. How 'bout y'all just go with it and be happy, huh?

 

[cooleddie74]

Be happy with Star Trek?

GET. OUT.

 

[Ovation]

Be happy with Star Trek?

GET. OUT.

No. (But great movie.)

 

[O_Kav]

Frankly there isn't much really to talk about Discovery's visuals, they're awful and they clearly just took Mass Effect and slightly modified Mass Effects visual design and fit it in Discovery because they think young people are idiots and won't accept anything that doesn't look like a Xbox360 game.

Why a half-century old mainstream sci-fi franchise like Star Trek would bother copy/pasting the aesthetics of something so niche as Mass Effect ? If there are similarities between the two, that's because ME is the franchise influenced by Trek, not the other way around...

 

[Wowbagger]

Yeah man, they were. The reality is, something like that was not gonna be made by a major studio as its designed to lose money. Its the realm of fan stuff where its done out of love or enjoyment and not profit.

They could have just updated the visuals to look more modern and sleek while keeping the core design philosophy and colour palette of the era. Mid 20th century design is still considered very sleek and fashionable even till this day.

 

[Amasov]

It is odd that Bashir wouldn't be aware of the Augment virus, given that he himself is genetically engineered. I would assume he would have extensive knowledge of genetic engineering in human history, especially since it had an impact on Klingons. Of course, any fan could just claim Bashir was playing dumb.

Real life answer is: The writers had not yet made Bashir genetically engineered by the airing of the tribble episode, and the ENTERPRISE episode didn't air until a decade later.

Bashir didn't know about the Klingon augment virus any more or less than Kira knew about Kirk when she crossed over to the mirror universe. Not every Trek character has to be aware of events that unfolded years before them and to another race of beings - to boot.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Bashir didn't know about the Klingon augment virus any more or less than Kira knew about Kirk when she crossed over to the mirror universe. Not every Trek character has to be aware of events that unfolded years before them and to another race of beings - to boot.

I've already pointed out that I don't expect every character to know of past events. Only in this case I would assume Bashir knew given the nature of the topic and his own.

 

[cooleddie74]

Even Julian could be a clumsy, forgetful dolt at times. It was pretty obvious he wasn't always the most attentive Starfleet officer when it came to history. And if a lot of if not most information about the Klingon Augment virus was classified or kept under wraps then there'd be gaps in his knowledge if not outright gaping chasms.

 

[Amasov]

Even Julian could be a clumsy, forgetful dolt at times. It was pretty obvious he wasn't always the most attentive Starfleet officer when it came to history. And if a lot of if not most information about the Klingon Augment virus was classified or kept under wraps then there'd be gaps in his knowledge if not outright gaping chasms.

And given that the Klingons had to turn to humans to help them, I don't know if it's something they were particularly proud of and wanted to keep it as under wraps as possible. You remember what Worf said, "We do not discuss it with outsiders."

 

[Dijeirusan]

Why would they change anything?

 

[USS Triumphant]

And frankly, I'd be a lot more embarrassed that he didn't even know the basic department colors of the 2260s when one of the most famous Starfleet officers in history wore one of them during his most legendary five-year mission of exploration. Did he never see a photograph or hologram of Captain Kirk during his years at the Academy and in Starfleet medical training?

Forget the historical aspect - knowing past uniforms would be an essential *contemporary* skill: so you know whether or not the officer whose ship just blew yours up accidentally and repeatedly in a time loop outranks you or not.

 

[DS9-31]

A reboot would help, visual and otherwise.

Maybe, we can show that S1 was told through Burnham's eyes. She has skewed perception how the Klingon's look and the how the ships and uniforms look.

Even those schlock JJ films captured the look and feel better than Disco. Disco needs to give us something that looks inspired by TOS/TMP/Cage... not whatever generic sci-fi look they had in season 1. The new design didn't even stand out in any memorable way. The Uniforms look closest to ENT, which is not good thing either. Has anyone shopped DIS characters in TOS uniforms yet?

 

[Search4]

Although to be fair, Julian didn't even recognize that Starfleet officers of the TOS era wore gold for command and red for ship's services and engineering. If he didn't remember the basic uniforms that his forebears a century earlier wore then his ignorance of the Augment virus affecting the Klingons suddenly makes a little more sense.

And frankly, I'd be a lot more embarrassed that he didn't even know the basic department colors of the 2260s when one of the most famous Starfleet officers in history wore one of them during his most legendary five-year mission of exploration. Did he never see a photograph or hologram of Captain Kirk during his years at the Academy and in Starfleet medical training?

He saw Kirk in the original green wrap.

 

[Wulfsa]

These reboots are made for talkin'
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days these reboots are gonna talk all over you....

 

[cooleddie74]

He saw Kirk in the original green wrap.

True. But before he met him in person he seems to have been pretty bad at 23rd century uniform recognition.

 

[iliescu]

It has been in reboot, even the unimaginable got a reboot - so the answer is probably yes.

 

[AndorianAle]