I stand corrected. 
Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors
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There's a difference?Not a matte not a matte not a matte not a matte not a matte!!! It's an on-set scenic painting.
(Even if there is, I'd say that per common usage for the average non-industry person, they're still both mattes.)
I think (to split hairs), a matte painting is something that's done on glass that's designed to cover up over live footage - usually done in post-production and directly on the film. An on-set scenic painting is something that's done on canvas or cardboard and a part of the overall set dressing and is viewed with the rest of the set in real-time. Of course, this all goes back to pre-CG days for us old tossers.
Now that it's all done with computers, there really is no difference anymore, I guess.
Now that it's all done with computers, there really is no difference anymore, I guess.
I gather Rogue One used on set set extensions and 2-D background ships. Just like the old days.
Matte painter extraordinaire Rocco Gioffre (TMP, LaLaLand) clarified this for me. In "the biz" any painting added in post-production, whether it be matted or not (like a shot that includes no live action) is generically called a "matte painting". This often includes "glass shots" where a painting is placed between the camera and the set. Cycloramas and other painted backgrounds placed on set as a background or set extension (like the corridors) are "scenic paintings".There's a difference?
They used a cyclorama when filming the stop-motion AT-ATs for Empire Strikes Back. Since that wasn't really live action, does that make it a matte or a scenic painting? (Not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely interested in the distinction.)
Sometimes I forget how long I've been following this thread. I'll say it once more, with feeling: that's some damn good work, Donny.
Yes, in a variety of ways. Some are straight up flipbook animations, some are actual renderings of 3d objects placed off screen and fed back to the panel's geometry via a real-time camera object. I did extensive research on the control surfaces and most are accurate replications of details (like the text written on the surfaces) we never saw clearly on screen. Most of the blink patterns on the console controls are pretty accurate to their blink patterns in TWOK.
Can't wait to see the hanger deck.
Out of curiosity, if you were to do the hangar deck, what scale would you go for?
The ones seen in the TOS, and TMP were much larger than the one we saw in TFF (obviously because they were models/paintings, and didn't have to be built full size).
The set in TFF, whilst being very impressive, always looked far too small to be really believable.
