Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors
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To be fair, as Donny mentioned, three of the four times those stations could have been visible, they were blocked by lines of crewmen (Kirk's arrival, Spock's funeral, and Admiral Morrow's arrival in TSFS), and during the nebula battle, you can only see the stations for a split second before they're engulfed in flames. I'm also pretty sure they were omitted from the floor plan in Mr. Scott's Guide and the drawing in Star Trek Fact Files/Star Trek: The Magazine.
To be fair, as Donny mentioned, three of the four times those stations could have been visible, they were blocked by lines of crewmen (Kirk's arrival, Spock's funeral, and Admiral Morrow's arrival in TSFS), and during the nebula battle, you can only see the stations for a split second before they're engulfed in flames. I'm also pretty sure they were omitted from the floor plan in Mr. Scott's Guide and the drawing in Star Trek Fact Files/Star Trek: The Magazine.
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Yep. As far as I know, that short scene where the torpedo bay is engulfed in flames is the ONLY available evidence those consoles were there at all.
Yep. As far as I know, that short scene where the torpedo bay is engulfed in flames is the ONLY available evidence those consoles were there at all.
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If you look close you can kind of make out the edge of the left one in this shot: http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twokhd/twokhd1080.jpg
If you look close you can kind of make out the edge of the left one in this shot: http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twokhd/twokhd1080.jpg
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Or an alien whose elbows bent the opposite direction as ours.
Or an alien whose elbows bent the opposite direction as ours.
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Dear Donny,
This post is mainly an excuse for me to say how much I’ve been enjoying your work, and following the depth of research that’s going into it. Quite amazing, and wonderful.
Oddly enough, the “thing in the middle of the bridge” was something I already knew about, because I’d read about it somewhere. Sure enough, “The Making of Star Trek: The Motion Picture” (written by Susan Sackett and Gene Roddenberry, published by Pocket Books in 1980) has this on pages 85-86:
Whatever the shortcomings, I have the feeling that this may well be the most detailed description of the thing and what it's supposed to do available.
Best wishes,
Timon
Dear Donny,
This post is mainly an excuse for me to say how much I’ve been enjoying your work, and following the depth of research that’s going into it. Quite amazing, and wonderful.
Oddly enough, the “thing in the middle of the bridge” was something I already knew about, because I’d read about it somewhere. Sure enough, “The Making of Star Trek: The Motion Picture” (written by Susan Sackett and Gene Roddenberry, published by Pocket Books in 1980) has this on pages 85-86:
Whatever the shortcomings, I have the feeling that this may well be the most detailed description of the thing and what it's supposed to do available.
Best wishes,
Timon
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^^^ Thanks very much for the post. Very informative.
I'm still genuinely curious how they got that thing to move in sync with the actors if they didn't have the bridge set on a gimbal. I guess we'll never know...
^^^ Thanks very much for the post. Very informative.
I'm still genuinely curious how they got that thing to move in sync with the actors if they didn't have the bridge set on a gimbal. I guess we'll never know...
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Since it probably wouldn't--and didn't--show up onscreen, they could have just had somebody up there stirring the water so the little ship would move.
Ultimately it wasn't necessary to have it there, and it made no difference.
It was a Dunsel.
Since it probably wouldn't--and didn't--show up onscreen, they could have just had somebody up there stirring the water so the little ship would move.
Ultimately it wasn't necessary to have it there, and it made no difference.
It was a Dunsel.
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Now to the second level of the torpedo bay.
We really don't get a very good look at this level. The few shots we do see of the upper level during the funeral scene, there are so many cadets present we don't see much at all.
What we DO see, however, is the same diagonally-brace styled wall panels, and our blinky-computer panels seen in the Enterprise and Regula 1 Transporter Rooms, as well as the Regula 1 laboratory. Also, we see a rail system circling the hole into the first level of the bay.
It was my job to fill in the rest. What do you think?
On the ceiling, you'll see I've created a sliding door hatch that the torpedo theoretically is carried downward through to it's place on the track below.
I added an access door on the second level that perhaps leads to the torpedo storage area.
Now to the second level of the torpedo bay.
We really don't get a very good look at this level. The few shots we do see of the upper level during the funeral scene, there are so many cadets present we don't see much at all.
What we DO see, however, is the same diagonally-brace styled wall panels, and our blinky-computer panels seen in the Enterprise and Regula 1 Transporter Rooms, as well as the Regula 1 laboratory. Also, we see a rail system circling the hole into the first level of the bay.
It was my job to fill in the rest. What do you think?
On the ceiling, you'll see I've created a sliding door hatch that the torpedo theoretically is carried downward through to it's place on the track below.
I added an access door on the second level that perhaps leads to the torpedo storage area.
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What I love about all your renders is the feeling that this is a real place, that the lighting is generated by practical lights and that everything makes sense. Watching a movie, you are often aware of how each shot is manipulated for effect; a part of the set is emphasized or darkened depending on the needs of the script. As a result, the sets sometimes feel theatrical rather than real. These renders feel real, tangible and logical as if we're really there. Incredible work as always!
Pierre
What I love about all your renders is the feeling that this is a real place, that the lighting is generated by practical lights and that everything makes sense. Watching a movie, you are often aware of how each shot is manipulated for effect; a part of the set is emphasized or darkened depending on the needs of the script. As a result, the sets sometimes feel theatrical rather than real. These renders feel real, tangible and logical as if we're really there. Incredible work as always!
Pierre
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Bloody perfection!
Bloody perfection!
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I know you get a lot of praise in this thread (rightly so). But this is terrific in a different way. You’re creating a new environment and blending it seamlessly into an existing place. You’re turning it into a real thing.
I love that door. It feels like absolutely what that door would have looked like. It has enough of a relationship to the airlock doors we have seen without being a carbon copy. I can almost imagine walking into this room from somewhere else, seeing it all open up in front of me as I get further in, and suddenly realizing that this IS the torpedo room set, just like I saw in the movie. For some reason I never got that with the other sets.
This set is like the Captain America: The Winter Soldier of Star Trek sets. It’s very pretty. It feels (to me) absolutely real. And if you think about it too much (or at all) it doesn’t make a lick of sense.
I know you get a lot of praise in this thread (rightly so). But this is terrific in a different way. You’re creating a new environment and blending it seamlessly into an existing place. You’re turning it into a real thing.
I love that door. It feels like absolutely what that door would have looked like. It has enough of a relationship to the airlock doors we have seen without being a carbon copy. I can almost imagine walking into this room from somewhere else, seeing it all open up in front of me as I get further in, and suddenly realizing that this IS the torpedo room set, just like I saw in the movie. For some reason I never got that with the other sets.
This set is like the Captain America: The Winter Soldier of Star Trek sets. It’s very pretty. It feels (to me) absolutely real. And if you think about it too much (or at all) it doesn’t make a lick of sense.
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I had considered that as well, but I'm approaching the detail limit to maintain a decent frame rate in-game. Plus, if I end up providing an animation sequence for loading torpedoes, a simple hatch in the ceiling will make things much easier.
Either way, I've purposefully left the area "blank" in case I want to add something like that there later. But for now, I'm moving on from the torpedo bay.
Next up? Warp Engineering.
I had considered that as well, but I'm approaching the detail limit to maintain a decent frame rate in-game. Plus, if I end up providing an animation sequence for loading torpedoes, a simple hatch in the ceiling will make things much easier.
Either way, I've purposefully left the area "blank" in case I want to add something like that there later. But for now, I'm moving on from the torpedo bay.
Next up? Warp Engineering.
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Kewl. It's only been, what, two years since you did it the last time?
So I guess this time we're getting the Dilithium Chamber of Death.
And the horizontal intermix shaft - forced perspective like before, or more the scale they wanted us to think it was?
Kewl. It's only been, what, two years since you did it the last time?
So I guess this time we're getting the Dilithium Chamber of Death.
And the horizontal intermix shaft - forced perspective like before, or more the scale they wanted us to think it was?
