Did we ever see such a thing in TOS?
Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)
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Got the examination room bed modeled and textured! The graphic is pretty crude, as it's what I made years ago, based on a graphic of the nervous system I found online. Since we never really get to see this graphic in great detail (unless @Rick Sternbach has any images of it he can share, since he created it), I figure this is "good enough"
I should point out that I think the inclusion of a graphic of what is a very human nervous system is kind of weird and not very inclusive, unless we are meant to believe this graphic changes based on what humanoid/lifeform is lying on it. Any thoughts?
Looks good to me!
Yeah that’s blown my mind. Can’t believe I’ve never noticed that! But it does (pretty much) confirm that Kirk’s cabin viewer wall ended up being the TNG sickbay viewer wall. We don’t get any clear views of this bottom edge in the TWOK exam room scene, but I bet now more than ever that it’s this same wall.
No. All the junior officer cabins were redresses of Kirk’s quarters with both sections of the room (office and bed).
I would assume that the graphic is able to change depending on the species of the person lying on the table; maybe there's an auto-detect, otherwise the doctor could use the scan console to select the species.
Sadly that's par for the course on Trek, on TNG the sickbay graphics were all clearly human, including a display of a human brain and of human DNA. One has to assume that indeed they do change depending on what's being scanned.
On the specific matter of the examination bed, I'd imagine that it either auto-scans the person laying in it and changes both the graphic and the scans accordingly (after all, some passive scans that might be harmless to humans might be lethal to alien species, or viceversa), or that the specialist doing the scan has to first input the patient's species on the console next to the bed, and it is that which changes both the graphic and the scans available.
Perhaps the graphic with the nervous system is the way it identifies the patient's species. When someone lays on the bed it "reads" them by trying to match their nervous system with a known layout from the database.
No, but this is at least something that could have been depicted in TOS as both living space and bedroom had corridor access doors. Given all the thought and planning that went into ST2, I would be surprised if the notion of how Junior Officers' quarters might have appeared (had the series gone to term) wouldn't have come up at some point.
Unless ST2 would have gone for the shared quarters / bunk bed approach?
It was uncovered in the pilot, but it's hard to see if the graphic is still there or not. By Datalore they were lighting it quite brightly and with the bed cushion on it, that gave it a cool white band of light around the edge.
Donny, do you have a lower angle on your bed?
Also, did you decide to not include the floor bolts that are visible on TNG? I can't find a full-height shot of the table from the movie to see if they're there or not.
Also, did you decide to not include the floor bolts that are visible on TNG? I can't find a full-height shot of the table from the movie to see if they're there or not.
Interesting! I wonder how the upper part of that wall came to be painted so darkly as shown in this BTS picture that you posted back on page 130.
https://flic.kr/p/2iNyTQz
Slightly warmer lighting and those wacky colors adoring the storage containers for the TWOK side of things. I still don't know what that graphic is supposed to be. I simply cropped it out of a screencap and ran it through an AI-enhanced resizing program called "AI Gigapixel" and plopped it onto the material. One of those TWOK mysteries that will probably go forever unsolved.
It looks a bit like an old TV test pattern. The impression I get is that TWOK's set dressers were trying to make those look like display screens instead of storage containers. Honestly, before I saw your reconstruction of the TMP version of the set the other day, I would've assumed they were screens.
I always saw those as color coded disposal units for different materials/equipment, similar to those on real hospitals and surgical rooms. I know that the TNG sickbay with its red and blue vases was supposed to be a futuristic version of this concept, but I don't know if that was already a thing by the time TWoK was made.
hey guys, I just found this stock photo from TWOK, and apparently the door from the examination room into McCoy's lab/office had a large "RESEARCH LAB" Decal printed on the door, I wonder than if they other doors leading to the other rooms in sickbay were labeled this way.
https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/Stock-Images/Rights-Managed/MEV-12465394
https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/Stock-Images/Rights-Managed/MEV-12465394
Nice find! I'd always wondered what the text near that door said! We get a glimpse of it here:
In the Director's Cut, on the opposite wall, we see another bit of decal text, with a "C" visible. Not sure what the rest says though as it's blocked by this Phase II scanner:
In the Red Alert Corridor scene later in the film, we see another example with the letter decals, with "Engine Section" on the doors to the Engineering set:
Well, that door goes out into the main ward, I think. Maybe "IC" for "Intensive Care?" But then you'd think it'd be "ICU." Maybe it's "WARD C."
Likely "WARD C". The signage outside the examination room lists a few wards:
EMERGENCY
ROOM (there could be a letter or number here, but "ROOM" looks centered with "EMERGENCY" so probably not)
INTENSIVE
CARE
WARD (Most likely a letter or number here, given the spacing)
BURN
CENTER
WARD B
(Strange that this part is not center with the rest of the text, so there's possibly something to the right of this block of text. Back in 2014, I put the medical logo there)
And, does this signage mean that this ward represents all three of these things? Are there unseen directional arrows pointing crew members to separate wards?
That sign outside the exam room seems to point to a much bigger medical complex on the ship, similar to that of the Enterprise-D.
I'd certainly imagine directional arrows being there on the unseen part of the sign. Similar signage on the movie have them (like the blue label seen here in the right of both crewmembers).
I'd certainly imagine directional arrows being there on the unseen part of the sign. Similar signage on the movie have them (like the blue label seen here in the right of both crewmembers).
I doubt that there was that much thought put into their function. Most likely, Nicholas Meyer just wanted some cool-looking greebles to put on the wall, and those fit the bill. Did you ever notice that the backpack gizmo that's apparently a vacuum cleaner at Starfleet HQ is suddenly being hauled around like a vital piece of equipment when the ship is at red alert later on?
The folks working on TMP wanted to work out what every single button did on the Enterprise, while Meyer just went for giving an overall impression of high-tech stuff going on. And they're both valid approaches.
I'm not sure about that last part, I remember reading somewhere that Meyer like every thing/function on the ship to be detailed and specific (which is I'm guessing why he constantly showed close-ups of the Enterprise and Reliant consoles being operated), plus in TWOK Lee Cole added even more signs, equipment labels and operating instructions all over the inside of the ship making the operation of the ship even more detailed and specific than it had been in the first film.
