Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)

[Donny]

Yeah, if you're in the booth the door to the corridor is on the left and the service corridor is on the right, but Donny said

While on the pad facing the booth

I knew that would be a point of confusion! I was explaining all directions as if one were standing on the pad while facing the booth. So, yes, we are both correct @137th Gebirg!

I went back and clarified a bit to avoid further confusion

 

[137th Gebirg]

Oops - sorry about that. Should have read it more carefully.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Okay, quick history lesson on the transporter room set:

I never noticed that there wasn't the service corridor opening in the TMP transporter. The things you learn years later.

Man, the TNG transporter was blander than the original series transporter and also, somehow, looks much cheaper and cheesier.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Man, the TNG transporter was blander than the original series transporter and also, somehow, looks much cheaper and cheesier.

I'd say that was true of the TNG sets in general.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I'd say that was true of the TNG sets in general.

And I would agree. TNG feels cheaper and cheesier to me than the TOS sets.

 

[Donny]

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And I would agree. TNG feels cheaper and cheesier to me than the TOS sets.

Do you mean the TOS sets or the TOS movie sets?

 

[Maurice]

I wonder if the flooring might've been "wild" in sections. If that was so you could just lift it up and expose the stage floor beneath for the camera. They had multiple angles in the transporter room in TMP, so the flooring didn't seem to limit what they were shooting.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

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Do you mean the TOS sets or the TOS movie sets?

The TOS TV sets.

 

[Tomalak]

The difficulty of filming this set is probably why we saw so little of the transporter room in either TWOK or TSFS, and probably why they opened up that wall for the characters to exit out of instead of the main entryway in TWOK.

That might be true of course, but I'm not sure it's the reason we didn't see the room more often. The transporter room doesn't tend to be a place people hang out for lengthy scenes even in TNG (maybe in Realm of Fear?). We hardly ever see it in the TNG movies either, just a couple of brief scenes in Generations and Insurrection as far as I can remember. I can't think of any parts of TWOK or TSFS that might have used the transporter more than we saw.

It's like on a contemporary drama you don't necessarily see characters leaving their house, getting in a car and driving somewhere. Often the scene will cut from their house to their destination. Same thing on Trek. Maybe they could have shown Kirk's party beaming to Regula 1 instead of the voiceover/sound effect, but it would have bogged down the film. Like you say the return trip is used to convey the urgency of the scene with Kirk's running commentary as they have to physically get to the bridge.

I love that scene too - one of the only cool scenes in TFF has Kirk's yeoman bringing him his bomber jacket to the bridge, kind of that like that scene in TWOK.

 

[Workbee]

I'd say that was true of the TNG sets in general.

I think a lot of that was due to the way they were lit. TNG tended to have more generic full “fluorescent” lighting where the movies had more dynamic and colorful lighting. Which is understandable considering TNG was a tv production with much more limited time and budget to work with.

 

[Donny]

Anyway, got the floor grating in tonight. It employs a displacement map so that the grating actually appears three-dimensional, even thought it's just a flat plane. Lighting is still very very WIP

 

[Tomalak]

Great work!

I have to say it's probably my least favourite set on that ship - the beauty of the TOS transporter room was the way they made this totally fantastical mode of transport look completely routine.

By contrast, standing on that pad would scare me to death, especially considering they only just scraped off the remains of Commander Sonak and the poor navigator! The TMP set just looks completely at odds with the rest of the set design. Even main engineering doesn't have that kind of exposed machinery, just the magical, swirling main shaft.

 

[Jesse1066]

Great work!

I have to say it's probably my least favourite set on that ship - the beauty of the TOS transporter room was the way they made this totally fantastical mode of transport look completely routine.

By contrast, standing on that pad would scare me to death, especially considering they only just scraped off the remains of Commander Sonak and the poor navigator! The TMP set just looks completely at odds with the rest of the set design. Even main engineering doesn't have that kind of exposed machinery, just the magical, swirling main shaft.

It's like a set from an Alien movie. It's cool, but it's not very Star Trek. I liked it better in TFF and TUC.

That's not to detract any from this recreation though, it looks great!

 

[137th Gebirg]

I’d just be afraid of stepping wrong on that grating and twisting my ankle - or worse. I guess OSHA has dissolved by the 23rd century.

 

[Jedman67]

If I recall correctly for voyager, they essentially struck the transporter set completely and rebuilt if from the ground up, reusing many of the individual "wild" elements from the earlier incarnation.
Although I don't know if that level of rebuilding is still considered "redressing" in the industry.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Anyway, got the floor grating in tonight. It employs a displacement map so that the grating actually appears three-dimensional, even thought it's just a flat plane.

Keeping in mind that my knowledge of 3D modeling is, well, non-existent, is the grating modeled so there are holes where the empty spaces would be, or is there some kind of translucence going on so you can still see the machinery through the grating?

 

[Irishman]

Anyway, got the floor grating in tonight. It employs a displacement map so that the grating actually appears three-dimensional, even thought it's just a flat plane. Lighting is still very very WIP

Just incredible work, Donny. I wish I had the time to devote to my art the way you do yours.

Are you using HDRs at all in your lighting? Global illumination, or something else?

Lastly, have you considered doing tutorials for any of your pieces? Like, maybe ,oh, I don't know, the Galileo shuttlecraft? ; )

 

[Irishman]

I’d just be afraid of stepping wrong on that grating and twisting my ankle - or worse. I guess OSHA has dissolved by the 23rd century.

Yup! No safety railing, no giant signs that scream at you "WARNING! OPENS TO VACUUM!!!!" or "HEY, IDIOT!!! VARIABLE GRAVITY AREA MEANS YOU COULD GET CRUSHED IN HERE!!!"

 

[Tallguy]

Yup! No safety railing, no giant signs that scream at you "WARNING! OPENS TO VACUUM!!!!" or "HEY, IDIOT!!! VARIABLE GRAVITY AREA MEANS YOU COULD GET CRUSHED IN HERE!!!"

But it's still safer that Star Wars. Or a JJ set.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Heh, yeah, the way those doors closed on the Death Star wouldn't give you much time to get out of the way before they sliced you in half. "Death Star" indeed!