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Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)
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My take on that console: Scotty said it himself, it's a simulator. Probably a loaner from Spacedock, a portable console used to monitor (via the 'bunny ear' sensor/transmitter) and fine-tune the new engines. Work up a mathematical formula for how the various parts work together, run it through a simulation program, and whatever works best is transmitted to the engine computer for use.
I'd swear up and down that there were plans for that console in a blueprint somewhere, but I couldn't find them anywhere in the Blueprints thread. Also struck out with the Enterprise Flight Manual for PII/TMP, even though it has the foyer console in there. I'm consistently amazed at how you are able to do such a great job going off scant reference material.
^See, they would have been able to properly balance the engines if Decker hadn't sucked up all the bandwidth trying to livestream the 256K HD remaster of Debbie Does Delta IV.
That’s a perfect explanation! I’ll label it as such in-game! Makes sense it wouldn’t be there in TWOK, as the then well-worn engine wouldn’t need simulations anymore (but would for some reason need an additional half dozen or so computer consoles strewn around the bay
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How about an Excelsior engine room from the STIII?
We know the bridge didn't follow the aesthetics of the other bridges we'd seen, so there's no reason to think the engine room did either, and you could pretty much have a free hand at the "Great Experiment"!
This is all we ever did see, so Donny really could go anywhere with the space:
Well, it's clearly a redress of the Enterprise engineering set, implying that the transwarp drive uses the same kind of intermix-shaft reactor to generate its power. That suggests that the main difference is what gets done with that power once it reaches the nacelles.
Yes, but we don't see the shaft itself, just one of those black rings between the segments, and we only see one small corner of the engine room, so I think that gives some leeway for creative license.
The black ring and a bit of one of the vertical ribs around the shaft. And enough of the surrounding railing to give a sense of the size of the space it encloses. Which suggests that the same basic structure is used, whatever variations in detail there may be. It's unlikely to be some radically different design like a big glowing sphere or a brewery interior or something.
For what it's worth, the Mastercom fan blueprints gave the Excelsior the same kind of intermix shaft as the Enterprise refit:
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/excelsior-revised/excelsior-revised-4.jpg
Although the Jackill plans went with something more like the TNG warp core:
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/jac-transwarp-prototype/transwarp-prototype-1.jpg
Maybe NX Excelsior bridge...?
I like this idea!
Notice how they used a wide angle lens to try to make the room look bigger.
I’d go with something like the Ent-A/TNG warp core, saying that that’s the first warp core of its kind. It fits with Lora Johnson’s Guide saying the Ent-A was supposed to be transwarp capable as well. When the engines didn’t perform as hoped, they simply painted over/deleted the ‘trans’ part.
Maybe NX Excelsior bridge...?
I've been making this suggestion now and again for either of you to do it. Yeah, it's a terrible stand-in bridge but there's so much you could do with it to spice it up.
There's a couple of concept art pieces of the front of the Excelsior bridge we don't see, and correct me if I'm wrong but no trek ship has a wrap-around screen as suggested in those art pieces.
If I had the skills to take on something like this, one thing I'd love to dive into are all the random screen graphics along the walls and splice them with early TNG LCARS- on the belief that what we're looking at is a predecessor of the Okudagrams to come in the next decade.
I know it's full of Jack Kirby comic extravagance, but the comics give us a couple more pictures of the Excelsior's Engine Room spaces.
Personally, I imagined the area to the left off-frame lead off to an open hallway that surrounded the horizontal intermix shaft (bottom image). Near the nacelle hub is where the top image is. Trade out the transparent tubes with energy for the familiar intermix shafts and it looks to me like a good start.
I'm the kind of fan though that likes collecting images like these and building something coherent out of them
It could be a good exercise, polishing up cruddy sets and shots to make them better. Donny did wonders with the Grissom's bridge.
@Norsehound: I don't actually consider it a terrible stand-in bridge. Besides those concept images, the NX bridge has some cool (and barely seen) details in its final form, including an inverted "pit" for the helm/nav consoles. Rather than being a step down as on the Enterprise, they are positioned a step upwards, and then the Captain's chair is another step up still. This is very barely noticeable when Captain Styles walks to the navigator after entering the bridge.
I'm quite a fan of this fan imagining of the whole bridge. The steps and the bits seen in canon are maintained, but another, deeper level is added in front with rails to occupy all of that otherwise empty space.
I'm quite a fan of this fan imagining of the whole bridge. The steps and the bits seen in canon are maintained, but another, deeper level is added in front with rails to occupy all of that otherwise empty space.
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