Guess they didn't think it through.
Donny’s Late TOS Movie Era Interiors
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Guess they didn't think it through.
You don't press your hand flat, you just press your fingers on it. Kinda like the way they did in TNG in the two episodes we see the destruct command used
I suppose "retina scans" were forgotten.
I know this is 1980's / 90's level of IT / Computer Security thinking, but just relying on ComBadge ID + 5 Finger Print Security + Voice Validation from two senior officers isn't good enough IMO in this day and age, much less the 24th century.
It's pretty easy to steal a persons finger prints right now, there are tons of YouTube videos showing how and bypassing finger print readers. If somebody wants to take your biometric credentials, we should make it as hard as freaking possible.
Given how important high level commands like "Self Destruct" is for a StarShip, I would want more levels of validation.
To validate the person's credentials, there should be multi-layers of Biometric security for each officer:
+ Valid ComBadge (Your ID Card effectively with below Biometrics being the credentials to validate said ID):
__- Entire Hand Print Scanner, why only limit it to your digits, get your entire hand + fingers to be scanned, & scan all hands! (Some species have 3 hands!)
__- 3D Facial Recognition
__- Dual/Multi Retinal Scans on both eyes, or if you have more than 2 eyes, we can scan all of them
__- Voice Pattern Recognition
__- Quick DNA Scan
__- 3D Body Scan so that the person is close enough to the general parameters of said person on file
In the 24th century, all those biometric factors should be able to be quickly processed in ≤ 1 second.
+ Valid Acces Codes:
__- Spoken Pass Phrase that is seperate and distinct from Typed Pass Phrase
__- Typed in Pass Phrase that is seperate and distinct from Spoken Pass Phrase
I tried that. It not easy to get you fingertips in that position even if you make a "hoof" out of them.You don't press your hand flat, you just press your fingers on it. Kinda like the way they did in TNG in the two episodes we see the destruct command used
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Interesting that there would also be hand/fingerprint security ID considering the Monster Maroon uniforms had a security access device on the rear of the shoulder strap.
Guess it's like two-factor authentication these days.
Guess it's like two-factor authentication these days.
Interesting. It's not the most comfortable way to hold my hand, but I can do it, no problem.
I tried it, and its not that hard really. I mean don't lock your fingers, just relax them. Its all about angle
I got my fingers wet and tapped them on cardboard and it's an effort to get them in that configuration. Frankly, it's basically impossible to get your pinky fingerprint down in that position unless you plant it first before all the other fingers. In short, you can do it, but it's needlessly difficult as designed.
And "The actually you can." part of my previous post was a cut and paste error, since corrected.
That's probably more realistic, but it would slow the story to a crawl while all these scans are performed on however many people are needed to initiate the auto-destruct.
Each Officer literally places their entire hand on the hand scanner
::VFX for every scanning type occurs simultaneously::
They speak their pass phrase/code,
then type their pass phrase/code
That's literally 5-7 seconds, similar time to what Riker + Picard needed to do for their scene.
Maybe that's the issue right there.
@K1productions said to do it the way it was done in the two TNG episodes when auto-destruct was activated. The picture shown is from "Where Silence Has Lease." Here are screencaps from the other one, "11001001":
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnails.php?album=17&page=16
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x15/11001001_hd_373.jpg
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x15/11001001_hd_374.jpg
The fingerprints aren't down. Only the fingertips are in contact.
It would appear that RIker positioned his hand differently in "Where Silence Has Lease."
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnails.php?album=35&page=17
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x02/where_silence_has_lease_hd_403.jpg
https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x02/where_silence_has_lease_hd_404.jpg
Why would the fingers need to exactly fit the diagram? It could just be a visual cue to place your fingers anywhere on the screen.
This. Thank you.
Alright.
And alternatively, they could always track motion once they sense fingertips on the panel. The graphic we see could very well be the standby image while the reader is idle.
That makes sense if it's designed to be either-handed.
Excellent! Good thinking folks! Thanks!
