Does the Federation employee civilians

I quote from DS9 "Statistical Probabilities":

So if the Federation is projected to have over nine hundred billion casualties during the Dominion War, it should have a population considerably more then one hundred billion.

 

Taking that sort of long view, one might wonder whether the AQ winning the Dominion War when they did will have actually set them up for worse things to come...

 

Ten Forward's staff are civilians, but the stewards in TUC are presumably Starfleet. They have Starfleet arrowheads on their uniforms after all.
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Yeah, I have a hard time seeing Starfleet allowing people to serve on their vessels who are just going from port to port, unless it's like the Karidian troupe.

 

I stand corrected. In another thread in the TOS era, I was having little luck finding planets/colonies with over one million people, speculating that the then Federation was seriously underpopulated. Apparently, over the last 100 years since TOS, the Federation has grown exponentially in both number of planets and population...seems that it may even have an overpopulation problem brewing.

 

Federation colonies are very underpopulated, but the homeworlds of each race probably have populations of a similar order of magnitude to 24th century Earth.

The real problem with Starfleet which has never been discussed is why it's like 95%+ human despite the Federation itself canonically not being. My headcanon regarding that is pretty much that Starfleet is just one of many different exploration/defense forces within the Federation - it just happens to be the Earth-based one.

 

Heck, Lawrence Marvick was a Federation engineer who helped design Kirk's Enterprise. ("Is There in Truth No Beauty?")

 

And Discovery has pretty much confirmed that, at least with regards to the Vulcans having their own defense force.

 

No, actually, Vulcan has an Expeditionary Force in Disco. Probably no more a military than Starfleet is.
#crossingtherubicon

 

Except he doesn't actually say those nine hundred billion projected casualties are the Federation's exclusively. There could be 200B klingons, 300B. Romulans, 100B cardies, etc in that tally, for all we know.

(EDIT: of course with massive numbers like these it's still highly likely the total population of the Federation is > 100B. Unless they projected 850B. dead jem' Hadar )

 

Everybody in Starfleet is a civilian according to Picard.

Kor

 

How much money do you think they pay the military chaplain?

 

A civilian, by definition, is anyone not in the armed services or the police force. Regardless of the disagreement about whether Starfleet is military or not, the evidence is clear that it is an armed service.

 

My comment was tongue-in-cheek, obviously...

Kor

 

There are people in the briefing scene in TMP aboard the Enterprise with some sort of civilian id's as well.

 

David Marcus considers Starfleet to be a military in The Wrath of Khan, but he does have a rather anti-Starfleet bias, considering scientists as always having been the "pawns of the military".

 

Really? Do Klngons even have tongues to put in their cheeks/

 

Really? Do Klingons even have tongues to put in their cheeks?

 

There's a case to be made that at one point, the entirety of Starfleet's hair stylist contingent is not only civilian, but... Bolian

 

So it's a military then (just like Starfleet). We also hear of a Vulcan defense fleet in TNG, the episode with Spock.

The Enterprise just complete a major rebuild. civilian contractors still on board perhaps?