Neelix doesn't even belong to Starfleet, yet he has his own quarters.
Does Rank have privileges in the future?
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Neelix doesn't even belong to Starfleet, yet he has his own quarters.
He's a civilian guest/guide/chef. So he's a special case.
Didn't he share with Kes at first?
But he DID captain his own ship, was the only ally in a new quadrant, and later took on multiple roles within the ship.
At first, he was likely given his own quarters because he was the first friendly race they met in the Delta Quadrant. Obviously, you want to show your best side in first contact scenarios.
When he and Kes decided to stay, he took on many roles... cook, morale officer, ambassador. He took duty shifts in various departments.
Kes did similar things... she maintained the airponics bay and was the medic/nurse.
They obviously earned their keep.
At first, he was likely given his own quarters because he was the first friendly race they met in the Delta Quadrant. Obviously, you want to show your best side in first contact scenarios.
When he and Kes decided to stay, he took on many roles... cook, morale officer, ambassador. He took duty shifts in various departments.
Kes did similar things... she maintained the airponics bay and was the medic/nurse.
They obviously earned their keep.
Maybe at first but then they definitely got separate quarters.
I doubt there was a line to become his roommate.
What makes you think the rest of the crew, didn't?
Why would Starfleet people be treated like second-class citizens on their own ship while aliens of dubious utility would get aristocratic treatment?
Remember that the first actions of Neelix were to lie to Janeway et al. and send them into mortal danger. Not to mention that Neelix is a terrible cook, that he once managed to endanger the ship with infected cheese. His cooking experiments sometimes send people to sickbay...etc. He gave Hogan stupid instructions that got him killed!
Need I say more?
I doubt there was a line to become his roommate.
Tuvok regretted the experience.
This, particularly as the regular complement of Voyager was slgnificantly closer to it's 'max' capacity than the Enterprise-D. The Intrepid-class has a crew complement of ~150 and is maybe 30-40% full (based on VOY: Prophecy) whereas the Galaxy-class is mostly empty under normal operations (she can accommodate up to 15,000 persons, likely under similar conditions to Voyager above).
I still think that if rank has privileges, they are more symbolic than real. The captain doesn't get better meals than his crew because caviar is likely as easy to replicate as a cheeseburger. Same thing for clothes and objects of all kinds. We see Janeway recycle her books once she's read them as would the lowest ranked recruit on her ship. It looks like everyone has an equal access time to the holodecks and the mess hall. So if rank has privileges I wonder what they are.
Uh, I think we've established larger and private quarters as one.
Yeah your right it’s probably small things. But for all we know it could be that senior ranked officers get higher priority whenever there’s an attack and the doctor needs to treat a bunch of the crew
Private quarters? Maybe. I have yet to see people on Voyager WITHOUT their private quarters though. Larger? not so sure Janeway's quarters don't look larger than Tuvok's or Kes' (who doesn't even have a rank in Starfleet).
Established? are you kidding?
When they talk about the rules of triage they never mention rank as one of the criteria. The gravity of the injuries seems to be the only thing considered.
Is Voyager the only Star Trek show?
Yes, it was established. I quoted directly from Memory Alpha. And take any scene of Kes' quarters, like in "ELOGIUM", and Janeway's, like in "DEATH WISH", and you can clearly see Janeway's is much larger. Maybe the difference is not as noticeable when comparing Janeway with Chakotay or Tuvok, but hers is also definitely larger than Kim, Paris, or Torres.
And Voyager is not the only Starfleet ship to use for this comparison. It's been used IN DIALOGUE on TNG.
And how about this? Chakotay and Tuvok both have their own office, i.e. Ready Room. Look at the size of those. Now look at Janeway's. Her Ready Room is massive.
Another privilege.
When dealing with life on a starship, when every bit of space is precious, having larger portions earmarked for you based on rank is the very definition of privilege.
I see no evidence of packing them in , at least in the 24th century. the D has 2.5 times the crew of Kirks, but 8 times the interior space. The cramped nature of Kirk’s Ship was noticeable in trials and tribbleations.
While the D has ensigns sharing quarters, it could also take hunderwda of guests. It’s entirely possible that sharing quarters wasn’t due to neccesity, but perhaps a way to instil rigour in new recruits (got to keep your room ship-shape when you’ve got a bunkmate). I suspect such a rule would be dropped quickly in Voyagers case.
Did we actually see a bunkmate in Good Shepherd?
While the D has ensigns sharing quarters, it could also take hunderwda of guests. It’s entirely possible that sharing quarters wasn’t due to neccesity, but perhaps a way to instil rigour in new recruits (got to keep your room ship-shape when you’ve got a bunkmate). I suspect such a rule would be dropped quickly in Voyagers case.
Did we actually see a bunkmate in Good Shepherd?
Is Chekov his Gilligan?
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