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Does it make sense for Vulcans to be into baseball?

We learned from Enterprise that the Romulan name for themselves really is Romulan, but we can assume all the other associated terminology has got to be cheeky translations by humans to follow the theme. They don't really have a rank called Centurion, it's just what humans chose to translate it to. Same with Remus and Praetor.
 
Just an idle thought I had contemplating Deep Space Nine's "Take Me Out to the Holosuite" the other night, Although this thread was inspired by the DS9 episode, I wanted to throw the question out to the general Trek fandom, since most every Trek fan has an opinion on Vulcans. Hence the thread's placement here.

Does it make sense for Vulcans to be into baseball? Baseball isn't decided on intelligence or logic. There's only a bit of strategy to it (batting order, deciding who plays what position, when to switch pitchers or take a player out of the game, etc.). And luck is a pretty huge factor. It just doesn't seem like a game that would appeal to Vulcans in general. Chess, poker, even football, I can see Vulcans developing an appreciation of. Those games are more technical and have a larger number of potential outcomes. But baseball? Not really.

I know that it was just a fun change of pace episode, and the Vulcans were the designated "evil team" because it made sense for the Niners to be underdogs in terms of physical strength and playing ability, but would Vulcans really get into baseball? I don't think so. What do you think, folks?


Trek's only quibble is that a whole race is devoted to one frame of mind, generally as allegory to one facet of the human condition - which helps in keeping issues contained within 45 minutes, like scope creep it's impossible to cover every possible nuance so Trek found what worked best and kept with it. Apart from humanity, which gets the gamut therein, because it's still a show by and about and for humans and the human condition, consciously using alien species as metaphor for aspects of human behavior. How many audiences, especially for sci-fi where the creative and unusual and odd and unexpected should be expected, could handle something they couldn't begin to relate to because something alien is something they cannot relate to?

But the DS9 baseball episode is still clunky, it just doesn't work and likely wouldn't regardless of how they'd pique the curiosity of enough Vulcans to either humor the humans with or to learn something new. Or Sisko saying there's logic in keeping a body fit and in a convincing way. No individual of any species is perfect.

I'd have to rewatch the episode but it's never been one of my favorites. Still, latter end of the show and not all ideas turned into episodes are going to work - it's more a homage or indulgence to the legendary Michael Piller, and knowing that tidbit I still find a soft spot for the episode no matter what.
 
If a Vulcan felt the need to show their superiority, what better way to do it than to best humans at a human sport? ...
A human sport that had been dead for a couple of centuries and that only one human Starfleet captain cared about?

Kor
 
Maybe the appeal / thrill is exactly that it isn't logical. Or, indeed, linear ;) For a species that bases so much around logic and strict discipline, I can imagine them finding some appeal in this human game where only slight strategy and a lot of brute skill and a little luck are factors. Vulcans value control. Over emotions. Over logic. Human sports let them indulge other desires they normally can't, while still exercising their strategic, logical selves.
 
The Vulan Team learned and played only to help get on the good side of their Captain and to prove his points on Vulcan Superiority.
 
About as much sense as it makes for Klingons to be into Shakespeare. Or Romulans into Roman mythology. Or Ferengi into root beer.
I don't remember the Ferengi being into root beer as a species. I remember a Quark speech about humans being like root beer because they were both insidiously appealing, or something like that.
Maybe the appeal / thrill is exactly that it isn't logical. Or, indeed, linear ;) For a species that bases so much around logic and strict discipline, I can imagine them finding some appeal in this human game where only slight strategy and a lot of brute skill and a little luck are factors. Vulcans value control. Over emotions. Over logic. Human sports let them indulge other desires they normally can't, while still exercising their strategic, logical selves.
Makes sense to me. It's a test of their emotional control!
 
I don't remember the Ferengi being into root beer as a species. I remember a Quark speech about humans being like root beer because they were both insidiously appealing, or something like that.

Makes sense to me. It's a test of their emotional control!

Yes. The famous "root beer" scene in "Way of the Warrior." Quark and Garak agreed that it was vile.
 
Yes. The famous "root beer" scene in "Way of the Warrior." Quark and Garak agreed that it was vile.
Thanks. I couldn't recall which episode it was, and I really didn't feel like combing through DS9 episode guides or doing a Google search to check.
 
A human sport that had been dead for a couple of centuries and that only one human Starfleet captain cared about?

Kor
Wesley Crusher and the nannite scientist liked it. Plus Kasedy Yates brother and enough people on Celtus 3 to form a league. Maybe Kivas Fajo and I think Sisko got the Prophets into it. Not so bad of a sport if you can get Gods into it. Jason
 
I really doubt that the Prophets formed a baseball league after "Emissary."
Sisko will get them into now that he has joined them. I mean they sort of learned linear time from it and made Worf into a 50's player in their Benny Russell dream. Jason
 
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Their homeworld is named Romulus, its neighbouring planet named Remus.

Which is why I preferred Diane Duane's "Rihannsu" as the native pronunciation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Rihannsu
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Rihannsu

Rihannsu is the name that Romulans use for themselves, although their language is referred to as Rihan. It means "The Declared", and presumably stems from their declared choice to reject the teachings of Surak and leave the planet Vulcan. (TOS novels: Rihannsu: The Bloodwing Voyages).

The term "Rihannsu" has also been defined as "Outcasts," in reference to their being blamed for the assassination of Surak and apparently having been forcibly exiled from Vulcan.
 
You think the Vulcans were bad, try playing against Prophets. They'll call your strikes before you swing, and give you the final score at the start of the game.
 
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