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Does canon really matter?

Let me help you with that:

STO is for funzies and irrelevant.
Novelverse is for funzies and irrelevant.
Mirror Universe is for funzies and partially irrelevant.

Kelvin is movies only.

So there really shouldn't be much of a burden.

Prime and Kelvin are all that matter, I'll agree on that.
 
I wouldn't even consider Kelvin to be important. It was a way to make movies and have a little fun with the franchise. If the extent of the Kelvin universe spans three or four movies, who's really going to care about them?
 
Does canon really matter?

No. Not a whit.

Jeepers, Mr. Kent. What does it matter if a new story contradicts an old one? Your Doritos will be just as crisp, and your as yet unborn children will not be deformed by an imaginary wiggle in an imaginary timeline.

It's all just fiction. Not real. Use your imagination and either sign on or don't. But for crying out loud, it's not the end of the world if they tell a new story that doesn't fit with an old one.

:sigh:
 
I have one too. I think of the movies as a glorified fan film. How else would you explain how to play with the old characters and not call it a "reboot". It's the safest way to do that.

Oh, and Khan. :rolleyes:
 
I think of the movies as a glorified fan film.

But the studio says it is "Star Trek", every bit as much canon as anything else with the name. Surely you are going to respect the studios wishes on the matter?!?

Thinking is discouraged.
 
Except it isn't. It just looks different for production reasons. ;)
"You are also right" :)

But the studio says it is "Star Trek", every bit as much canon as anything else with the name. Surely you are going to respect the studios wishes on the matter?!?

Thinking is discouraged.
Context and authorial intent are important. Not matter of discouraged thinking, but having all the facts.
 
But the studio says it is "Star Trek", every bit as much canon as anything else with the name. Surely you are going to respect the studios wishes on the matter?!?

Thinking is discouraged.

Eh. Years ago, maybe. But now Paramount and CBS have different rights. I think of CBS as more of the "legit" Trek, and since Paramount isn't making any more TOS or TNG movies, all they have (and can work with) is this Kelvin Trek.
 
How dramatic.

Really? More dramatic than someone saying they are going to require migrane medication because someone doesn't see things the same way as they do?

But, for the record, I was being tongue-in-cheek. Sometimes it doesn't translate well to a post. My apologies.
 
Really? More dramatic than someone saying they are going to require migrane medication because someone doesn't see things the same way as they do?

But, for the record, I was being tongue-in-cheek. Sometimes it doesn't translate well to a post.

I got it :)

I still answered truthfully, though.

Thinking is discouraged.

Right thinking will be rewarded. :guffaw:
 
Really? More dramatic than someone saying they are going to require migrane medication because someone doesn't see things the same way as they do?

But, for the record, I was being tongue-in-cheek. Sometimes it doesn't translate well to a post. My apologies.

Would the introduction of an appropriate emoji help?
 
I still answered truthfully, though.

Which is fine. How you see things shouldn't hamper anyone elses enjoyment of something. We might disagree. But disagreeing can lead to fun discussions.

It definitely shouldn't give any one migranes. :lol:
 
This one's my favourite

:whistle:

it can communicate so many things dependent on context and commonly opens up a welter of alternative meanings :D

No, I'm serious. It was my mistake. Sometimes I'll use an emoji, sometimes I won't, sometimes I simply forget. I was sloppily riffing on "The Cage" when I made the remark and thought others would pick up on it. One person did. Others didn't

No harm, no foul. :techman:
 
Which is fine. How you see things shouldn't hamper anyone elses enjoyment of something. We might disagree. But disagreeing can lead to fun discussions.

It definitely shouldn't give any one migranes. :lol:

Being that I do a podcast, I get views from a lot of people. Ever since DSC was announced, it's been split almost 50/50. People don't like change, no matter what the reason. Some people still want the plywood sets, some people don't understand that actors age and they want to move their careers and put characters away. I personally feel that for Trek to live on, it must evolve.

Like V'Ger.
 
I personally feel that for Trek to live on, it must evolve.

Folks even have different ideas on how it must evolve. I'm firmly in the pro-reboot camp. That Trek needs to start over, embrace what works and dismiss what doesn't to the dustbin of history.
 
I think far too many people would ditch it. I even might, just because I don't feel you have to. It worked for BSG because it had one season and 1980, and that was it. You can't really reboot Star Trek without mass hysteria.
 
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