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Doctor Who – 4x12 – The Stolen Earth (Grade/Discuss)

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I'd like to see Daleks versus the Toclafane. I wonder how the Daleks would hold up against tech from three trillion years in the future.

If Jack Harkness with a mere machine gun can get past three Toclafane I have no doubt the Daleks could take them out as easily.
 
I've been thinking about this episode and one thing that keeps striking out at me was when they were in the Shadow Proclamation and the woman noticed the bug on Donna's back. I hope that scene isn't forgotten in the finale.
For what it's worth...
This was brought up earlier in the thread. I went back to see exactly what was said in that scene. What the woman said to Donna was "There was something on your back".
I think the more important line in that scene was her next line. "You are something new". What any of that means only RTD knows at this point.
 
Well they don't hit targets. Their blasters are panoramic. When they shoot at a target, then hit everything ten feet towards every direction of their focal point of extermination.

of course they probably different weapons settings for different environments and opponents, if they can take down Cybermen and Humans and Buildings with the same gun as well as they do.
 
I've been thinking about this episode and one thing that keeps striking out at me was when they were in the Shadow Proclamation and the woman noticed the bug on Donna's back. I hope that scene isn't forgotten in the finale.
For what it's worth...
This was brought up earlier in the thread. I went back to see exactly what was said in that scene. What the woman said to Donna was "There was something on your back".
I think the more important line in that scene was her next line. "You are something new". What any of that means only RTD knows at this point.

Perhaps Donna is the key for the Doctor to unlock the Time War and save Gallifrey?

The sacrifice of the Time Lords to destroy the Daleks seems to be becoming seen as more futile with each of the Dalek's uprisings since it happened. Why should their destruction be time locked and irreversible if it is not for the Daleks? The Doctor mused about how he and Donna were drawn together against the laws of probability for a traveler such as he to meet people randomly at the end of Left Turn. And she creates her own realities whenever her life's path get altered. So what if Donna Noble is the Key To Time or something that the Time Lords (or the White Guardian) placed on Earth for the Doctor to find in case of their demise? She's their cosmic "reset button"?
 
The sacrifice of the Time Lords to destroy the Daleks seems to be becoming seen as more futile with each of the Dalek's uprisings since it happened. Why should their destruction be time locked and irreversible if it is not for the Daleks?
Because that's how the Doctor sees time. He knows the things that can be changed, and the things that can't. he knows that the Time War is something that should remain locked. And he fights like hell whenever someone says different, in part because if he didn't, then the Time Lords' sacrifice would be in vain, and that is unacceptable.
 
I have to wonder --

If the Tardis translates everything for you, why did the Doctor speak in (and hear, apparently) the Judoon language?

Damned fun ride, though. :)
 
because he knows how, Donna looked like she knew what was being said...

Yes, but Donna also knew Latin, and as Fires of Pompeii showed, actually SPEAKING the language -- rather than letting the Tardis translate -- renders usage of the proper language into gibberish.

So this was a technological/story inconsistency.

Tony
 
Maybe the introductory comments were mostly ceremonial and in an archaic language, so that the content was less important than the sounds. (Similar to Latin being used in contemporary Christian services).

Didn't Fires of Pompeii show that actually speaking the language into a third language?
 
O! I get it. A telepathic field can be used as a weapon. Why the frack would space cops let transient trasmit a telepathic device into the minds of any one inside an are under it's protection? in same vein as a no fly zone, it's a non teep zone... or at least in so far as not controlled by the Shadow Proclamation.
 
Didn't Fires of Pompeii show that actually speaking the language into a third language?

No, not quite. The merchant Donna was speaking to *assumed* she was Celtic, because he didn't understand what she was saying.

It's still an inconsistency, and they SHOULD have caught it.

Tony
 
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