Yes, I want to live forever. Either through memory upload or other technology.
Do you want to live forever?
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I'd love to. The chance to see my descendants grow up will be cool, although it would be sad to see them die at the ends of their life.
Maybe having the ability to regenerate would be a way to do it, or the aforementioned Rejuvenation from the Misspent Youth novels.
Maybe having the ability to regenerate would be a way to do it, or the aforementioned Rejuvenation from the Misspent Youth novels.
If I could stop aging while I'm still relatively young (like, say, right now), then yeah, I'd like to live forever. I think it would be cool to be able to see what wonders the coming centuries will bring -- sure, on the flip side, the future may bring some new horrors as well, but that's how it goes, unfortunately.
I guess I'd be like one of those Highlander immortals, but without all those pesky decapitations.
I guess I'd be like one of those Highlander immortals, but without all those pesky decapitations.
Not that I know much about this but don't you think that even though you would be frozen, but with freezing breaking up tissue and cells, information would be lost? Even with future tech, maybe all they would be doing is a sort of guess at what was lost? I don't know if that would be worth it. Memory gaps, loss of function, who knows..
I dont know isnt that really expensive to have yourself frozen? And its not like they have any guarantees that it will work. If it does not work oh well there goes your money and you are still dead so its not like you can sue them for false advertising or something. Seems like it could be a waste of money.
Not sure about forever, I've been saying for years I'd love to make it to 130 which would be in 2102. Longevity isn't something the men in my family are good at, my dad & his two brothers barely made it to 70, I think my grandfather did as well. But I figure I'm pushing 37 now, by the time I'm 50 perhaps someone will have made leaps in gene theropy making it possible to regenerate the cells in the body that don't take to well to aging. If I'm lucky by then we'll have landed a human on Mars, discovered Earth-like planets, and will be in a holographic theater watching Star Trek L (L is the roman numeral for 50 for those who don't know).
Yes- there is so much I want to learn- especially science- I'm sure you could live forever and never learn it all because things keep changing, new species adapting to learn about, hopefully eventually new planets to visit, so much history, so many books!! As long as I didn't get old and decrepit, living forever would be fine with me!!
I'm sad sometimes that I won't live to witness the collision of the Milky Way and the Andromeda Galaxy some three billion years hence. I think that would be fantastic to witness, to see Andromeda looming larger and larger for millions of years, and then the two galaxies merging, and stars flinging away into intergalactic space.
We won't see it. None of us will.
We won't see it. None of us will.
Provided I don't get bored, sure!
I'm sad sometimes that I won't live to witness the collision of the Milky Way and the Andromeda Galaxy some three billion years hence. I think that would be fantastic to witness, to see Andromeda looming larger and larger for millions of years, and then the two galaxies merging, and stars flinging away into intergalactic space.
We won't see it. None of us will.
We might. What about reincarnation?
"Look out kid
Its somethin you did
God knows when
But youre doin it again" --Dylan
The collision in itself would last a billion years. I don't think any of us has that kind of patience...
The collision in itself would last a billion years. I don't think any of us has that kind of patience...
Maybe we should TiVo (whatever it's called) it and wake ourselves up after the fact, and speed it up.
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Would I like to live forever? Well, maybe not forever, but 10,000/20,000 years? Certainly.
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I don't think anyone should live "forever" as death is integral to the human experience...
HOWEVER
I wouldn't mind lengthening the human lifespan to something considerably more than what it is now. (600yrs or so, roughly)
Something very much akin to the 'Prolong Therapies' of David Weber's Honorverse.
or the 'Passive Cell Regeneration' of wizards in Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files.
or even better yet, the utterly complete cellular 'Regeneration' of Gallifreyan Time Lords in Doctor Who.
Of course none of these preclude the possibilities of accidents, injuries, illnesses, or assassinations.
HOWEVER
I wouldn't mind lengthening the human lifespan to something considerably more than what it is now. (600yrs or so, roughly)
Something very much akin to the 'Prolong Therapies' of David Weber's Honorverse.
or the 'Passive Cell Regeneration' of wizards in Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files.
or even better yet, the utterly complete cellular 'Regeneration' of Gallifreyan Time Lords in Doctor Who.
Of course none of these preclude the possibilities of accidents, injuries, illnesses, or assassinations.
I definitely wouldn't want to lie forever, because all you'll see is everyone and everything you care about eventually wither and die while you still keep going. Even the Universe will eventually die if we go with the "Big Rip" theory, and then you'll simply be floating in space for all eternity in a cold and dark emptiness devoid of any planets and stars...
Immortality is as much a curse as it's a blessing.
Immortality is as much a curse as it's a blessing.
The only way it would be worth extending the human lifespan is if it is done early enough that the ageing process is retarded at a young age. Otherwise all you have is wall to wall old folks' homes in every town.
Humans aren't meant to live much longer than they do now. If you had everyone living to 200 the fertility rate would have to go down to compensate. Everyone would have to work till they were at least 150 in order to pay for their retirement. The job market would be severely impacted on, with either young people being severely discriminated against because they are in the minority or the elderly being dumped because they are too expensive.
In any case even this modest projection is further muddied by the fact that it will only be the very rich who can afford such treatment to start with, followed by the slightly less rich and so on. Then you would have the high earning bracket living an unnatural length of time with the plebs continuing on a normal human life cycle. Can you imagine the horror of the kids of the rich and famous having to wait until they're 130 to inherit? The tragedy is unconscionable.
Humans aren't meant to live much longer than they do now. If you had everyone living to 200 the fertility rate would have to go down to compensate. Everyone would have to work till they were at least 150 in order to pay for their retirement. The job market would be severely impacted on, with either young people being severely discriminated against because they are in the minority or the elderly being dumped because they are too expensive.
In any case even this modest projection is further muddied by the fact that it will only be the very rich who can afford such treatment to start with, followed by the slightly less rich and so on. Then you would have the high earning bracket living an unnatural length of time with the plebs continuing on a normal human life cycle. Can you imagine the horror of the kids of the rich and famous having to wait until they're 130 to inherit? The tragedy is unconscionable.
Well, I certainly intend on going way past 100.
Would I want to live forever?
Probably ... with the option that I can end it if I choose to do so.
There's just so much to learn/see/do.
Even if your family is not exactly prone to living up to 100, that doesn't mean you'd be necessarily in the same boat.
You may have picked up their genes, but at the same time, it's a combination of factors, along with differences in your biochemistry.
Not to mention that there are numerous ways today you can do to possibly extend your lifespan.
For example ... there's meditation and physical exercising (more specifically, cardiovascular exercises since those seem to have a more profound effect on the body).
Those might just be able to push you up to, or past 100 ... and let's not forget the possible discoveries in medical science that will happen over the next 20 or 30 years that might also double or triple the lifespan (then again, medical science sure didn't change all that much over the past 20 years apart from improving on what we can already do).
Of course ... there's always a potential problem of getting your hands on something as a life extension drug due to the possibility it might be reserved only for those who can afford it (the perks of living in a capitalist society) ... unless of course society undergoes changes that would make money much less important.
Would I want to live forever?
Probably ... with the option that I can end it if I choose to do so.
There's just so much to learn/see/do.
Even if your family is not exactly prone to living up to 100, that doesn't mean you'd be necessarily in the same boat.
You may have picked up their genes, but at the same time, it's a combination of factors, along with differences in your biochemistry.
Not to mention that there are numerous ways today you can do to possibly extend your lifespan.
For example ... there's meditation and physical exercising (more specifically, cardiovascular exercises since those seem to have a more profound effect on the body).
Those might just be able to push you up to, or past 100 ... and let's not forget the possible discoveries in medical science that will happen over the next 20 or 30 years that might also double or triple the lifespan (then again, medical science sure didn't change all that much over the past 20 years apart from improving on what we can already do).
Of course ... there's always a potential problem of getting your hands on something as a life extension drug due to the possibility it might be reserved only for those who can afford it (the perks of living in a capitalist society) ... unless of course society undergoes changes that would make money much less important.
I think that's pretty much assumed by everybody working on life extension technology. We're all used to the current state of things, where all medicine can do is stretch out the decrepitude, so when somebody says the words "live longer", most people go immediately to great grandma drooling in the nursing home. I've often said that the anti-aging folks need to come up with more exact language to make it clear what they are really talking about.
Humans aren't "meant" to love more than 35 years, as far as mother nature is concerned. Imagine a medieval king and his advisors having this same argument, concerned about the potential social breakdown if people started to 40, 50 - nay, 60 years! In short, you're making a Malthusian, zero-sum argument, and the 20th century did a pretty good job of proving that sort of thinking utterly reactionary and wrong.
Of course there will have to be some adjustments to society with longer lifespans, but come on, it's hardly an insurmountable problem, if there even is one. People take up new careers, they get bored and move on. Human nature might take care of that all by itself.
As for resources, well maybe longer lifespans will give us the long-term thinking we need to really colonize space. I don't see the downside there.
Inany case even this modest projection is further muddied by the fact that it will only be the very rich who can afford such treatment to start with, followed by the slightly less rich and so on. Then you would have the high earning bracket living an unnatural length of time with the plebs continuing on a normal human life cycle. Can you imagine the horror of the kids of the rich and famous having to wait until they're 130 to inherit? The tragedy is unconscionable.
That is certainly possible at first, depending on the nature of the technology. But I have yet to see any explanation of how the anti-anti-aging crowd plans to stop this from happening. Setting aside the current ludicrous claims of "death panels," are we really going to say, as a society, "You can't have a longer, vital life because we think it would negatively impact the job market." And what about the countries that don't ban the treatment? Will we invade those countries to stop them? Will we arrest people upon their return? Put the violators to death according to the proper, socially-approved timetable?
It's coming, and there's nothing much anybody can do to stop it.
I'm sure there was people even back then that lived to 60 or maybe even over 100. Myths of the time had people living even longer. Fountain of youth myths where more believable. Take a drink or go to this special place that had some kind of magic and bam you are younger or you will live longer, maybe even forever. People who doubted this was possible where probably in the minority like they are now.
I don't doubt people will live longer. Forever or hundreds of years, yeah I do doubt that. Technology like cryonics actually working as they do it now, yeah I doubt that too.
Who is trying to stop this?
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