Do you think LGBT characters will feature more prominently?
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Having spent this weekend at Mission NY I can say without a doubt that the LGBT Star Trek community is incredibly vibrant, enthusiastic, and present.
Beyond the numerous (and obvious) reasons you might expect to see out LGBT individuals far into the future, it would be strange to pretend this fan demographic doesn't exist! They've been here the whole time. They're not going anywhere. It's 2016.
Discovery is an incredible opportunity to finally acknowledge this. There is no possible narrative explanation as to why in a secular, diverse Federation there aren't gay people.
Hope this counts as "on topic"!
Beyond the numerous (and obvious) reasons you might expect to see out LGBT individuals far into the future, it would be strange to pretend this fan demographic doesn't exist! They've been here the whole time. They're not going anywhere. It's 2016.
Discovery is an incredible opportunity to finally acknowledge this. There is no possible narrative explanation as to why in a secular, diverse Federation there aren't gay people.
Hope this counts as "on topic"!
I have no idea but it must be important.
29.65%.
As has been point out frequently, Star Trek has never been reticent to open depict hetero relationships and sexuality.
It would be interesting if they were to address the absence we've seen up to now in a episode.
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Where did you get that from?
My tricorder readings! It's science!
I don't think they can, however they can change their attitude from now on.
Sounds like Klingon forehead ridges.
"There were gay people in the 23rd century?"
"Yes, and it is a long story. We do not discuss it with outsiders."
Why address it? Each series is a product of the time it was made. TOS is full of 60s era sexism and they never really address that. I don't recall a single mention of why there were female captains in the 22nd and 24th centuries, but there were rules against it in the 23rd century.
I'm sure we fans will figure out some wacky excuse, but really it's because the writers and producers decided to completely ignore an entire portion of humanity for "reasons".
Really the best thing they can do is have LGBT crewmembers and not treat it as a big deal. Ensign Ricky likes girls and Ensign Bobby likes boys, both are excellent Starfleet officers who enjoy relaxing after duty in Ten Forward (or the equivalent on the Discovery) and having a laugh about their latest mission.
Janice was a wackadoodle.
12 Constitution class star ships, and 80 million people in Star Fleet.
12 Constitution class star ships, and 80 million people in Star Fleet.
Star Trek Beyond already did it. Twenty years too late, but it is there.
Beyond didn't do shit.
That was Sulu's brother.
Can you prove otherwise with canon?
That was Sulu's brother.
Can you prove otherwise with canon?
What canon?
Canon (to reasonable people) means true facts that were on screen.
TV or movies.
Novels, comics, radio plays, fan-theories, ranting actors claiming to be the real voice of their characters and press releases are not canon.
The producers and writers, off camera, are yelling that "Hey look! It's a gay!"
That is happening in the real world which is a different universe.
Peg might get fired, and the next writer, who could be militantly homophobic could say "kidding!" and put that new normal in his or her picture without reservation in movie 4.
Even if I see Sulu in the next movie making out with that guy, I can still chose to rationalize that it's probably maybe his brother, and that's just the sort of relationsip that they have, if I feel like it (which I don't).
Incestuous.
They need to say "This is my Husband, we love each other, that's normal, we have children, every one respects us, and he rocks my world."
TV or movies.
Novels, comics, radio plays, fan-theories, ranting actors claiming to be the real voice of their characters and press releases are not canon.
The producers and writers, off camera, are yelling that "Hey look! It's a gay!"
That is happening in the real world which is a different universe.
Peg might get fired, and the next writer, who could be militantly homophobic could say "kidding!" and put that new normal in his or her picture without reservation in movie 4.
Even if I see Sulu in the next movie making out with that guy, I can still chose to rationalize that it's probably maybe his brother, and that's just the sort of relationsip that they have, if I feel like it (which I don't).
Incestuous.
They need to say "This is my Husband, we love each other, that's normal, we have children, every one respects us, and he rocks my world."
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Had we seen the two actual kiss then it might've been something romantic, but as it was they were hugging. If I hadn't seen my brother in months/years I'd hug him hello.
As for the child it can't be Demora as she wouldn't even be born in the 2260s, so I assume it Sulu's niece--or are we meant to overlook her age as they say we should do with "Pavel" Chekov?
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