What does an LGBT character feel like? (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more, sir).
(No really, no need to answer - I've felt my share of LGBT characters.
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Do you think LGBT characters will feature more prominently?
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(No really, no need to answer - I've felt my share of LGBT characters.
)What does an LGBT character feel like? (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more, sir).
(No really, no need to answer - I've felt my share of LGBT characters.
I wanted to emphasize the character part.
Oh, trust me, they were some characters, alright. 
Where? At Star Trek? Good characters? Honestly Star Trek was always a little weak at the character part. Wasn't that discussed already? DS9 had nice characters.
I still think that Tom Daley would make a nice gay character. They could have the engine room in a pool or something (like that beer factory from 2009). That would be feel-able.
I still think that Tom Daley would make a nice gay character. They could have the engine room in a pool or something (like that beer factory from 2009). That would be feel-able.
Guess what my Google criteria was?
Couldn't agree more. Trek even took some baby steps into LGBT representation on DS9 with mirror universe stuff and Rejoined but then it and the rest of the franchise quickly backed away and never fully committed.
The original Trek, had there been an internet in the 60s, would have had posters asking why there had to be a Russian shoehorned in. They will ask the same of a gay character or, and this would be particularly groundbreaking on an Uhura level, a trans character. But generally the fact they ask is the reason why. That in order to have diversity in a cast it must be seen as forced or politically correct.
Representation matters a lot, and I would like to see an LGBT character (or god forbid two) in the new show. And not used for titillation either - ideally male gay characters as TV seems far more comfortable with Lesbianism. I'd also be keen on seeing a disabled character whose disability wasn't magically cured. LaForge for the modern age.
It may be important to have a Muslim character on the crew. Trek usually avoids human religion, but it might be worth exploring to some degree. I doubt that religion is going to completely disappear in a few centuries. Showing a future where all of humanity are working towards a common goal of peaceful exploration is something we need right now. It doesn't matter if you're straight or gay, cis or trans, religious or non-religious, human or alien. If we want to achieve anything, we need to work together and abandon prejudice and hate because it is holding us back.
Star Trek doesn't avoid human religion.
(Out side of universities) it's all gone.
There was no great enlightenment, just World War III.
3/4s of the planet on fire and either God has forsaken you or she never existed.
Although I could see the Supermen executing (sterilyzation is not enough, God is an earworm transmitted verbally not sexually.) anyone who worshiped make believe fairy tale bullshit because it adversely effected the genepool in ways that they could not scientifically detect with microscopes.
(Out side of universities) it's all gone.
There was no great enlightenment, just World War III.
3/4s of the planet on fire and either God has forsaken you or she never existed.
Although I could see the Supermen executing (sterilyzation is not enough, God is an earworm transmitted verbally not sexually.) anyone who worshiped make believe fairy tale bullshit because it adversely effected the genepool in ways that they could not scientifically detect with microscopes.
I just don't find it believable. Some elements would survive even that, they have mentioned Christmas still existing in both TOS and in Generations. Plus it may make the characters interesting as human beings and not puppets to deliver monologues about morals/technobabble.
They got rid of all the Lawyers.
In the aftermath of WWIII, all the layers were hunted down and murdered.
Killing Priests has to be easier than killing lawyers?
In the aftermath of WWIII, all the layers were hunted down and murdered.
Killing Priests has to be easier than killing lawyers?
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Having a Muslim character just doesn't sit right with me. We've spent decades with the no-religion Star Trek universe, and all of the sudden changing that to allow Islam(and only Islam?) survive to the future would be........quite odd. I think fans would be right to begin immediately questioning where all the Christian, Jewish, Scientologist etc. characters have been hiding.
If it's a total reboot then why not, but try and get several religions covered. I don't want to see just a bunch of atheists plus one Muslim. Heck, give us a devoutly Mormon captain. That would push a lot of people out of their comfort zones.
People should be pushed out of their comfort zones. It would be interesting to see religion coping with an universe full of different species. Trek is supposed to be about exploring what it means to be human, religion is part of that to some extent. I'm an atheist, but I've always found it an interesting concept. It's odd to just completely ignore it and act like its something the entire population would abandon, especially when other species didn't. Even the Vulcans have some from of religion with their rituals and devotion to logic.
This is a coincidence but I imagined that if 600 million people died and civilization fell, Any Religious leader who said that this is all of Gods plan, deserves to get stabbed. So I'm watching a movie called the Circle, and that's almost exactly what just happened!
Chakotay is religious. His "people" didn't leave earth until the 22nd century (explained in the Voyager bible, his colony has nothing to do with the Preservers.).
Up the Long ladder and where ever Beverly is from that's just as Space Ireland as Up the Long Ladder 's lot is.
Human beings who wanted to be religious, left Earth.
Its possible that the Vulcans refused to rebuild Earth if they continued to hold onto illogical Religion. The Federation only considers membership for races who have warp, a one world government and no cast based discrimination.
Vulcan would have had similar rules, since those are the people who the Federation inherited most of their Space-Laws from.
Chakotay is religious. His "people" didn't leave earth until the 22nd century (explained in the Voyager bible, his colony has nothing to do with the Preservers.).
Up the Long ladder and where ever Beverly is from that's just as Space Ireland as Up the Long Ladder 's lot is.
Human beings who wanted to be religious, left Earth.
Its possible that the Vulcans refused to rebuild Earth if they continued to hold onto illogical Religion. The Federation only considers membership for races who have warp, a one world government and no cast based discrimination.
Vulcan would have had similar rules, since those are the people who the Federation inherited most of their Space-Laws from.
I would love to see the next series with multiple orientations and genders. Since that probably wouldn't happen then I'd have to agree going with a gay male character.
If they want to have puppets, then take a page from FarScape and actually have puppets! Binge-watching FS I always forget that Rygel and Pilot are puppets, because they are fully realised characters (more than can be said for the likes of Chakotay, Kim or Maywweather). So long as they are well-written and acted, then even the most alien (or even a homosexual) character can be relatable to by the masses and appreciated for who they are rather than what they are.
Audiences could relate to the prawns in District 9 and sympathize with their plight. It just takes the right creative team.
The Clone Race from Up The Long Ladder were post-sexual.
Given the trouble with incest that would have shown up immediately when anyone younger or older or the same age as you might be genetically identical to your children, your parents, your siblings or yourself, if there is a Gene that promotes sexual appetite in magic Star Trek fakescience, it would have been turned inside out or snipped off for the safety of the community.
"Genetically forced" homosexuality, or mass sterilization would have been the only safe options left to a massive non-diverse clone stock if they didn't want to be overrun by simpletons and mutants.
So when Picard said that every 3 unlike clones had to together marry some savage who still thought it was 1740 AD, that was not taking into account existing marriages or sexual orientation, or even in this case the very absence of sexual orientation/inclination.
A little brutal.
Given the trouble with incest that would have shown up immediately when anyone younger or older or the same age as you might be genetically identical to your children, your parents, your siblings or yourself, if there is a Gene that promotes sexual appetite in magic Star Trek fakescience, it would have been turned inside out or snipped off for the safety of the community.
"Genetically forced" homosexuality, or mass sterilization would have been the only safe options left to a massive non-diverse clone stock if they didn't want to be overrun by simpletons and mutants.
So when Picard said that every 3 unlike clones had to together marry some savage who still thought it was 1740 AD, that was not taking into account existing marriages or sexual orientation, or even in this case the very absence of sexual orientation/inclination.
A little brutal.
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