Said it before and I'll say it again. Canon has nothing to do with consistency or continuity. Canon is an arbitrary function of copyright, determined by the rights holders at their whim. That's all. None of it matters. It's all make believe. 

They look the same to me?![]()
and this
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are not the same.
I should also add that continuity is also arbitrary and determined by the rights holders. The only reason the Star Trek spinoffs are considered linked to each other and to TOS is because the rights holders said they are. Accepted canon, and by extension the different continuities, is defined by CBS now, and previously it was defined by NBC. Inconsistencies are irrelevant. Whoever owns the show defines what goes where. People can try to parse out issues between different series or episodes, and disagree with it. But ultimately if the question is "Is X connected to Y," the answer can't be found by dissecting stories or aesthetics or analyzing connections and deviations. The only answer that matters is the one from the copyright holder.Said it before and I'll say it again. Canon has nothing to do with consistency or continuity. Canon is an arbitrary function of copyright, determined by the rights holders at their whim. That's all. None of it matters. It's all make believe.![]()
Thank you. This needs to be the top banner of every thread.Said it before and I'll say it again. Canon has nothing to do with consistency or continuity. Canon is an arbitrary function of copyright, determined by the rights holders at their whim. That's all. None of it matters. It's all make believe.![]()
that was, you know, exactly my pointIf you look at that conversation in toto, it's clear that what's amazing is the use of forcefields and transporter-like tech to give the holograms physical reality. That doesn't mean Riker hasn't seen a hologram before.
Big Disc-thingy, connected to a large tube thingy connected to two other tube thingies... the Enterprise. They look more or less the same![]()
and this
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are not the same. Which one is how the Enterprise under Pike looked? Two possible versions. Two continuities.
When they're concurrent and incompatible, it's a new continuity.
Yes it is. Whether CBS call their new one PRIME and insist over and over than everything is the same as it's always been is immaterial. In reality, they're different and incompatible, and thus are not the same.Again, not how it works.
Yes it is. Whether CBS call their new one PRIME and insist over and over than everything is the same as it's always been is immaterial. In reality, they're different and incompatible, and thus are not the same.
It doesn't. It's all make believe, a hodgepodge of shows and movies over 50 years and a variety of producers and writers with their own ideas about which direction Trek should go in.By that logic, a unified Star Trek continuity doesn't exist, and that's just not true.
I define "true" by common sense and what I see on TV - which is a reboot/prequel akin to Gotham. CBS defines it by what they're determined will keep them the most subscribers which is "prime universe".You can keep saying that Discovery doesn't take place in the same universe as the rest of televised Trek until you are blue in the face; that doesn't mean what you are saying is in any way true.
It's their product. They can do what they like with it. If they wanted to call Turkish Star Trek canon, they could.Yes it is. Whether CBS call their new one PRIME and insist over and over than everything is the same as it's always been is immaterial. In reality, they're different and incompatible, and thus are not the same.
Of course! Doesn't make it in any way true.It's their product. They can do what they like with it. If they wanted to call Turkish Star Trek canon, they could.
Of course! Doesn't make it in any way true.
Donald Trump claims his inauguration was the most well attended in history. Our eyes tell us otherwise. Donald Trump is the most powerful man in the world, so does that make him right regardless?Which is the truth?. What they say it is or what we think makes rational sense? Cause they control cannon, we just control, well..... we control squat
WIth every additional page I keep reflecting on these wise words from APYou know this is fiction right?
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