Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?
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Some day it will work though!
I think it far more likely some future producer will retroactively declare the show a different universe, and everyone will have to lap it up because, you know, retcons are immutable law or something.
Shit, we're getting back into the swing of things. So, you know what bothered by about TLJ? How they character assassinated General Hux and turned him into a punching bag for all the other characters.
Shit, we're getting back into the swing of things. So, you know what bothered by about TLJ? How they character assassinated General Hux and turned him into a punching bag for all the other characters.
Everyone knows it isn't real Star Trek anyway
I think Hux was far more menacing when Snoke wasn't so close by.
No, because then he was being slapped around by Kylo Ren.
It actually tracks better than it seems. Hux is basically an opportunist, utilizing pieces of military might to prop up his projection of power and self-importance. The times we see him wield authority with any sense of power is when he is surrounded by military might or to make himself look good in front of Snoke. When Kylo demonstrates his power by killing Snoke, Hux throws right behind him because it maintains his power.
I actually liked that aspect of the movie. Domhnall Gleason is a terrific actor, and deserves more than just being a cardboard villain. TLJ added a bit of dimension to the characterization there... he's the kind of tinpot fascist who enjoys punching down at those below him, while sucking up to those above him. In TLJ that stopped working for him... and yes, it was played for a certain amount of slapstick, but at least it made the character less boring.
Oh, wait, the swing of things, right!...
Well, the whole point of the thread is that we're not obliged to accept whatever the current producers say about continuity at face value. We can assess the evidence on our own. I actually still think (as I said back on page one) that DSC is at least marginally closer to fitting into Trek's prime timeline than it is to being a completely separate one, so unless producers show us otherwise on screen, I'm sticking by that for now. Either way, the show has bigger problems than that.But here with Discovery fans actually do have to buy it with their own money so it's no gift to them (not that television ever is but with bought streaming it's really not).
These fewwd metaphors are worse than the D-7 looking different.
I now hope the producers radically change the entire look of the show but that it still looks nothing like TOS, and provide no in-universe explanation. Just troll surface detailed obsessed fandom. Please.
I now hope the producers radically change the entire look of the show but that it still looks nothing like TOS, and provide no in-universe explanation. Just troll surface detailed obsessed fandom. Please.
Detail obsessed fandom is what kept this franchise afloat for fifty-plus years.
Why not blow up Vulcan to troll detail obsessed fans?
Funny, I remember so many fans of nuTrek were claiming they don't matter because the franchise needed a broader audience.
Better: Redesign the look of the Vulcan species. Suddenly they have much larger pointed ears and are even more sickly green. A character asks Spock "hey, you change your look! New hairdo?" then the Spock replies "I just injected a vaccine for that augment virus we had since 2141. Now we actually look more Vulcan"
The details didn't matter because the Abrams films told you up front: this is a different timeline. Things are going to be different than they were.
Which is really flimsy, to be honest. I didn't need "new timeline" to explain why the Enterprise and other surface details looked different, but a big event like blowing up Vulcan and killing Amanda certainly makes it necessary. If a major event happens and it contradicts what happened in Prime that we've seen from TOS-ENT, then DISCO is a new timeline.
You might as well as accept the fact, that for some folks, completely changing the look is a major event that places the show squarely in a new timeline.
But if they blow up Vulcan and still say it is "Prime", who are we to argue?
Thankfully I have a flexible imagination.
Except they haven't done something major like that. At least not yet.
It isn't about having a flexible imagination, its about marginalizing the work of a lot of people who helped make Star Trek what it is.
There's a snobbery about the "flexible imagination" comment. Why can't you just have a flexible imagination if they blow up Vulcan, have the Borg invade the Federation with a hundred cubes or destroy the Enterprise?
I'd mention cloaking devices, but we just have to work under the assumption that Spock is an idiot for not knowing about them. If they blow up Vulcan, we'll just have to assume he's an idiot and doesn't know his own ancestral lands.
Blowing up Vulcan was the dumbest idea ever for the movies. It created a complete separation from prime and JJ.
If they hadn't destroyed Vulcan you could still act as though this is a retelling and the events still lead to the same things we have seen before.
It was a horrible idea to split the 2 universes like that with such a major change.
If they hadn't destroyed Vulcan you could still act as though this is a retelling and the events still lead to the same things we have seen before.
It was a horrible idea to split the 2 universes like that with such a major change.
I love me some Doug Drexler. His appearances on Trekyards are the best videos those guys make.
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