Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?
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I love the hell out of that movie.
Same here, I own it on Blu-ray. Very faithful to the look of the 70's anime nearly 40 years after the fact.
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IDK - I always find the ending where he knocks out Yuki convenent. I mean everybody says their goodbyes except for those to - Kodai knocks her out, and Shima just happens to reappear in time to take her unconscious body away.
I do enjoy the live action SBY film (Have the Blu-Ray as well with the English subbed and dubbed versions) but IMO both Space Battleship Yamato: 2199 (a retell and reimagine of the original story) and what I've seen so far of Space Battleship Yamato: 2202 (a retell/reimagine of the Earth vs.Comet Empire storyline - and to this day, I believe the scene in STIII:TSFS where they steal the Enterprise from spacedock was influenced by the scene in the original SBY season 2 scene where they steal the Yamato from drydock - circa 1979 for the English version.)
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This.
I'm a general defender of the revised Enterprise but the strawman argument that "EWWWW, OLD ENTERPRISE AND D7 ARE STUPID PLASTIC TUBES HUNG FROM STRINGS AND ALSO ICKY" gets old fast and bears no intellectual weight. Nobody with an iota of common sense or a connection to reality is asking CBS to use 1960s filming technology and cinematography to make a modern Star Trek series and when somebody plays that card it's best just to laugh at it for the narrow, snobbish opinion it is.
The fans who think we should change almost anything and everything because "kewl" and "modern" are just as bad as those who want nothing to ever change because they don't like evolution.
I would like a balance between the two and see what is acceptable change and what is not.
I think based on a lot of the reactions I've been seeing since the premiere of the new show is that the Enterprise is acceptable if not ideal for one reason or another depending on your opinion of the original Constitution-class design going in. The Klingon ships are not for the most part. So there's a wild dichotomy of opinions going on with the aesthetic choices of this series with not a whole lot of fans seeming to fall into that balance in the middle.
The prevailing opinions seem to be that the Enterprise was changed too much or she wasn't changed enough, and that said changes were far too derivative of what online fans have been posting for years. Too much like Gabriel Koerner. Not far enough. The design is just lazy. It wasn't bold enough and needed more Kelvin timeline design touches because TOS is dated and sucks. Most of her is fine except for the nacelles. Most of her is terrible because she doesn't look enough like all the other starships on DSC.
You can't win for losing no matter which side you're on.
You can't win for losing no matter which side you're on.
Which is why they should have just gone with an newly rendered model of the ship we've seen on TOS in that time period for 50+ years. I don't get how they were worried about 'nostalgia' as even with the new model, there WILL ALWAYS be a nostalgic element because it's a ship containing at least one character most people know about or have heard about (Spock) for the past 50+ years.
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Might have helped some if they had lighted it better. The lighting of ships was atrocious in the first season.
Yeah, the damn black light poster lighting in this show sucks. The bridges aren't well-lit, space is too dark even for Star Trek space and it seems Starfleet keeps all the lights turned down because of budget cuts or something. We get it. Dark. Murky. Somber. Moody. Wartime. Edgy. Cool. "The way the hip kids like it."
Just stop.
Turn up the lights.
Just stop.
Turn up the lights.
Welcome to fandom.
And the accusations of fanwank would have increased by ten fold.
Brightly lit scifi has always turned me off. I like the 'submarine in space' look myself. Wouldn't mind the ship exteriors marginally more lit however.
That would be a wonderful start!
I’m split on lighting thing. Space is dark so the ships should be self lit, but then, they shouldn’t spend that much time too far from a star that should light them up anyway. Maybe between stars, but that’s what warp drive is for. Why are they lurking in deep space all the time
A thought I've been batting around, would it have been better if this show were set in the 25th century? Then it can be Prime Universe with no continuity problems at all. Klingons look different? It's a century later, why the hell not? Advanced holographic communications? Yeah, a century later. Hell, you could more or take Disco as it is, but say it's the 25th century and nothing would change about the show other than Sarek and Harry Mudd, but then they aren't that much like their TOS selves anyway, so there. And hell, being in the 25th century would at least leave an open field regarding what they could do with the Klingon War and Spore Drive.
Although, while typing this, I realize the MU storyline might have to face some revisions, but not that many. Just remove references to the Defiant (which weren't really relevant to the plot anyway) and replace with some exposition about how Terrans defeated the Klingon/Cardassian Alliance and became the dominant douchebags and evil again and every thing's fine.
Also, in the 25th century they could use Romulans, which the writers are apparently really wanting to do anyway but are allowing Canon to prevent it.
Although, while typing this, I realize the MU storyline might have to face some revisions, but not that many. Just remove references to the Defiant (which weren't really relevant to the plot anyway) and replace with some exposition about how Terrans defeated the Klingon/Cardassian Alliance and became the dominant douchebags and evil again and every thing's fine.
Also, in the 25th century they could use Romulans, which the writers are apparently really wanting to do anyway but are allowing Canon to prevent it.
Without a couple of 23rd century names, it would be indistinguishable from a 25th century show.
And here! But then I'm a closet weeaboo so it goes without saying.
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