Do the War and 9th Doctors wear the same jacket?

[Sketcher]

This has been bugging me ever since the 50th anniversary premiered. The War Doctor's jacket looks nearly identical as Nine's, but more worn and tattered. Does anyone know if they are officially the same article of clothing? And if so, what reason would Nine have for continuing to wear the same clothing as his previous incarnation? One would think he would do everything possible to distance himself from who he was during the Time War.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

The Warrior's jacket is significantly more worn-out than the Ninth, so they're probably meant to be different jackets. Its really, really stupid that they went that way, because it made the absence of the Ninth and original intention of casting Eccleston in the 50th so much more obvious.... but I had a fan-theory about the jackets, if I may.

The Ninth Doctor picks a new jacket from somewhere, and after an adventure with Rose and Jack in a planet that actually was part of the Time War, the Doctor runs into the Warrior. Naturally, the Ninth doesn't reveal himself to him, and is mostly in shadows, but anyway, long story short, gives the Warrior his jacket, and when the Ninth returns to the TARDIS, he realizes that they both wore the same jacket for all those years. Then uses a clothe refurbushing technology to regenerate the jacket and there you go.

Yeah, its convoluted. But, really, I like that idea.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

They are not the same jacket. The buttons are different.

 

[Lonemagpie]

They're not the same. The War Doctor's coat is longer (four sets of buttons, to the 9th Doctor's three); brown instead of black; the pockets are hand-warmers with the edges at 45 degrees, where Nine's pockets are horizontal; the lapel points are wider than the collar, whereas they're equal on Nine's; and there's no belt at the back, which Nine's has.

 

[drt]

The Ninth jacket is essentially a German Uboat commander's coat.

Even though it is black, I think because the leather is very distressed it looks a bit brown in some lighting.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Well, this is not the first time that a succeeding incarnation has worn similar clothing. The Second Doctor started off with basically a ill-fitting version of his predecessor's outfit, and both Five and Six wore similar types of frock coats (lapels and color choices nonwithstanding).

Personalities aside, I see no problem with the similar coats. The Ninth Doctor is generally a PTSD / war survivor's guilt sorta guy, so like his predecessor I don't see much issue with him not giving tons of thought into fashion choice. He just liked it, so he grabbed another one out of the closet which smelled less like a 70+ year-old human.

Mark

 

[Doctorwhovian]

A few other examples, I think-McCoy kind of wears pants similar to Troughton, and of course Matt Smith's original look is patterned somewhat after Troughton-especially the bow tie. Tom Baker (sometimes), Tennant and Smith (briefly) wore long brown coats.


Also Capaldi's costume-at least one version of it-is somewhat similar to Pertwee's look but without the frills.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

I don''t agree, Mark. The first thought on everyone's mind when seeing the Warrior was "he looks exactly like the Ninth".

I don't think its unintentional at all. And I rather think its purposeful, to register him as part of the Time War canon.

 

[Starkers]

Except he doesn't look exactly like the ninth? Aside from the similarity of the jacket (and they are clearly different jackets) there's no other similarity in their look.

I wonder if Nine wears a jacket similar to the War Doctor as a constant reminder of what he'd done? (or rather what he thought he'd done)

 

[Captaindemotion]

I remember people thinking that the War Doctor's outfit looked like a mix of Eight and Nine's. That in itself was criticised by many; Five wasn't a mix of Four and Six, for example. But one can understand why for this 'one-off' Doctor they went down this road.

I wouldn't say that it was 'exactly' like Nine's by any means.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

I remember people thinking that the War Doctor's outfit looked like a mix of Eight and Nine's. That in itself was criticised by many; Five wasn't a mix of Four and Six, for example. But one can understand why for this 'one-off' Doctor they went down this road.

Yeah, thats a better way of putting it. Pardon moi.

But anyway, its still a very valid point. I do wish the Warrior had a distinct look rather than it just being a mix between 8 and 9.

 

[Captaindemotion]

But anyway, its still a very valid point. I do wish the Warrior had a distinct look rather than it just being a mix between 8 and 9.

I can see both points, really. Other Doctors didn't really 'evolve' their looks from one to another in this way - Two wasn't a mix of One and Three. It was generally revolution, rather than evolution; they just did their own thing.

But I suppose the idea was to show that this Doctor was different, in both his regeneration and how he lived this incarnation and also so that he presented as less of a shock to the viewer. Whether or not that worked depends on the individual viewer, obviously.