I'm sure he will be. Roseanne too.
Disney fires James Gunn from "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3"
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I think in Gunn's case he was already forgiven. It's not so much that Gunn's career is over but he got screwed over this time in a very unfair way. Plus it feels just very random. Why now instead of 2 years ago or 2 years form now. If people have a problem with him working for Disney why would they be okay with him working for DC or some other place in the future? The tweets are still going to exist. Their is no logic in any of this except for Disney on a corporate level. Like I said before I think this looks worst on the people who basically took the political bait and gave the trolls exactly what they wanted. Disney looks weak in that it has no standards or spine in sticking up for it's people and everyone else looks like we let ourselves get played by trolls. The trolls are really the only winners. They got what they wanted. They now know it will work again. They know how to speak liberal to manipulate liberals. Plus the bonus is maybe they will scare anyone else about talking about Trump or else they might be the next Gunn only they might not be as secure, career wise to survive it.
Jason
Still ignoring how Disney sells itself as the most child friendly company in existence, I see.
Funny how nobody would find it at all strange if Sesame street got in trouble for working with Howard Stern or whatever other shock comedy star yet the idea that Disney maybe isn't the right place for a guy who deliberately joked about pedophilia (for quite a while) somehow doesn't register.
I understand the business side but it's not like kids know who Gunn is. Only adults know or care about this issue. It's one thing if you had a Disney movie doing these kind of jokes but in the end does anyone think the kids know about this stuff? All they know are what the Superheros are doing during the movie. Of course that also sort of also ignores some other stuff like how you have people get killed in the movies. One guy in Indiana Jones gets his heart ripped out of his chest. Not to mention all the secret penis and adult stuff the animators are famous for sticking in some of their old cartoons. Plus they just purchased Fox which means they know own "Deadpool" and "Family Guy."
Jason
It does not seem to be yours, as you have large number of posts where your concern is the movies going on in a thread about Gunn's inexcusable acts, with a secondary matter being some fantasy of actors violating the terms of their contract (in the face of Bautista admitting he's contractually obligated to finish what he's signed for).
That's the point--if Gunn had a moral bone in his body, he would never find anything humorous about the horrors of pedophilia and rape at any time. As for others still only concerned with this allegedly "great series" Gunn was behind, yes, its clear the relevant issue is tossed to the side. Its one of the reasons Gunn's horrifying kind of behavior will go on and on under the defense of "its only dark humor" or other non-excuses.
There's lots of horrifying behavior out there. There's a whole lot of horrifying behavior going on in the name of patriotism and Christianity. Not seeing Conservatives getting worked up over those.
Tell that to most men back before the 1980s.
He apparently knew full well he was crossing the line at the time as he was intending to provoke.
He apparently knew full well he was crossing the line at the time as he was intending to provoke.
And? He committed the behavior, apparently learned better then apologized for it. Sure in the hell beats blaming Ambien for it.
Fact of the matter is that none of us know James Gunn. We know what he did several years ago. Disney absolutely had the right to fire him for it. It doesn't mean they didn't make a knee-jerk reaction based on Conservatives screaming about the firing of Roseanne Barr.
He seemingly engenders loyalty in those who work with him, which is something Disney didn't take into account when they took the actions they took.
Was that ever a question? Disney is a multi-billion dollar corporation, of course they'll survive without him.
Are people fixed points? Are they only one thing in their lives and can’t be something different? Can people learn and change from their mistakes? Because for a period of time they did something immoral, they can never be moral people? Those who fall can never get back up?
Jesus says otherwise.
Almost every religion says otherwise. Almost every philosophy says otherwise.
For me this isn't about forgiveness, I'd forgive him tomorrow, but in the shoes of a Disney exec I'd still not want him anywhere near my company.
His career's far from over, hell this notoriety might even work in his favour, who knows? He is, however, facing the long term consequences that go hand in hand with being in the public eye and in this case that means anything involving a child friendly image is going to be a much harder sell for him in future.
His career's far from over, hell this notoriety might even work in his favour, who knows? He is, however, facing the long term consequences that go hand in hand with being in the public eye and in this case that means anything involving a child friendly image is going to be a much harder sell for him in future.
Yeah. Forgiveness doesn’t mean free of consequences. Doesn’t mean everything goes back to the way it was.
And, yeah, he’s going to be fine.
The problem with the way the world works today is nobody has any attention-span. Everything has to be time-compressed, therefore people asking for Gunn's forgiveness don't want him roaming in exile longer than literally a matter of hours. If he needs to do penance, then let it last at least a year or two.
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