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Discovery is being “overshadowed" by The Orville

Netflix has about 6 million subscribers in the UK and about 5 million in Germany. They surely hope to increase that number with the help of DIS. Still a lot of potential fans won't see DIS, because it is not on TV.

That'd be, like, 2-3 mio. more potential viewers than in the States;)
 
That'd be, like, 2-3 mio. more potential viewers than in the States;)
I've heard many outside the U.S. don't consider Netflix that good of a Service because Internationally there's a lot less content available to subscribers (for example, International Netflix will only have the sequels available for some major feature film IPs, but NOT the first/original film and other situations like that.)
^^^
Of course - me being in the U.S. and also not subbed to Netflix; I don't know if the above is accurate or not.
 
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I wouldn't say that either. Between Porn and Japanese Anime there are probably a lot more shows that will be more pirated than ST: D. ;)
This is only true if you clump all porn and all anime together. I mean technically any porn is either films or clips and with all that's available in terms of verity/fetish fulfillment, no single "show" gets pirated all that much.

Similarly, while anime pirating has been a problem, it's gone way down in the past year and a half. Plus, it also is more on a "per industry" basis. There's just so much of and the numbers get really spread out. And I would bet that if you were to total the number of views of any of the "big three" series across all the popular illegal streaming sites, the numbers per show would be surprisingly low.
 
I've heard many outside the U.S. don't consider Netflix that good of a Service because Internationally there's a lot less content available to subscribers (for example, International Netflix will only have the sequels available for some major feature film IPs, but NOT the first/original film and other situations like that.)
^^^
Of course - me being in the U.S. and also not subbed to Netflix; I don't know if the above is accurate or not.

Can't speak for everyone. But here in Germany, stuff never stays exclusive forever. Even Game of Thrones is on cable. Just a few seasons behind. And different services deliver on different speeds - e.g. House of Cards is available on Sky Go a few months before it's available on other streaming services (Netflix, Amazon...), and ~a year before it's available on free tv and DVD.
 
I've heard many outside the U.S. don't consider Netflix that good of a Service because Internationally there's a lot less content available to subscribers (for example, International Netflix will only have the sequels available for some major feature film IPs, but NOT the first/original film and other situations like that.)
^^^
Of course - me being in the U.S. and also not subbed to Netflix; I don't know if the above is accurate or not.

https://www.finder.com/netflix-usa-vs-world-content

Definitely accurate. Netflix is total crap in most countries of the world compared to the USA.
 
Star Trek needs to change as well, into something that doesn't take itself so seriously. I was hoping the TV series would take a cue from the Abrams films in this regard, but it doesn't look like it.

I tend to agree with you on 99.9% of topics you post on...but I'm actually not sure I agree with this.

I have seen every indication that while, yes, DSC intends to have a serious sci-fi / political thread running through it, it also has room for fun and humor. Just look at some of the characters (I don't know names yet...the upbeat / plucky cadet, the fungus expert, Mudd, etc) and the casting. It seems like they are definitely intending to have some fun...at least from my interpretation.

I've viewed it in much the same way as I view TOS...serious stories addressing serious issues, but with some great, playful and charming banter and some good solid comedy along the way.
 
Star Trek Discovery will be very successfull on Netflix in international markets, especially the core Trek markets like Germany, Great Britain etc. It will be moderately successfull in other markets, probably comparable to the Marvel-Netflix series or other, more American-culture centered stuf

I'm curious about the level of advertising and coverage in those markets.

I have seen literally no advertising, and no mainstream coverage of the show aside from a couple of brief articles about SDCC.

It is not just down to it being on a streaming service either - I have seen a fair bit on The Deuce and Electric Dreams.

I wonder how many potential viewers are unaware of its existence.
 
I have seen every indication that while, yes, DSC intends to have a serious sci-fi / political thread running through it, it also has room for fun and humor.

What, besides the name "Harry Mudd?" Other than his arch "No, I'm Mudd" there's not a hint in any performance, bit of dialogue or action contained in the trailers of anything but dour brooding, solemnity and angst.
 
https://www.finder.com/netflix-usa-vs-world-content

Definitely accurate. Netflix is total crap in most countries of the world compared to the USA.

As someone mentioned, no one can speak for all countries, but this argument around comparing US Netflix to international Netflix is, imo, total bs. Yeah, it would be nice if I could have the same amount of content the US version has, but Netflix here still has a massive amount of content (I always wind up adding stuff to the list way faster than I can watch it). The only service that exists here that can theoretically match it for content is a standard cable package, which costs at least 6-8 times as much, is filled with even more useless filler content than there is on Netflix and is traditionally far less reliable. It's a huge improvement in service, regardless of how it compares to the US version.
 
It is just so annoying that Netflix is missing all the time the most recent seasons of current series. That makes a smaller library even worse. People can just as well wait in that case until new episodes air on free TV and pay nothing at all. It is not like Netflix provide new episodes sooner.

The only real reason to get Netflix are their exclusive series and they don't have enough of them yet. Obviously they are working on it, but they need more to be really attractive.
 
It is just so annoying that Netflix is missing all the time the most recent seasons of current series. That makes a smaller library even worse. People can just as well wait in that case until new episodes air on free TV and pay nothing at all. It is not like Netflix provide new episodes sooner.

The only real reason to get Netflix are their exclusive series and they don't have enough of them yet. Obviously they are working on it, but they need more to be really attractive.

You're assuming free tv is easily available and likely to have all those shows people want to see. There are places in the world where you basically can't get free tv anymore. And most of the non-netflix original shows that I watch on netflix aren't on Dutch tv at all, or they're exclusively on cable channels which cost way more than netflix.

And personally, I'd argue that Netflix has pretty much already crossed the threshold of having enough original programming to be seriously attractive, although that is obviously somewhat dependent on what specific type of programming you find attractive in the first place. (In fact, Wikipedia claims that Netflix released more original programming in 2016 than any other single American network or cable channel).
 
I'm curious about the level of advertising and coverage in those markets.

I have seen literally no advertising, and no mainstream coverage of the show aside from a couple of brief articles about SDCC.

It is not just down to it being on a streaming service either - I have seen a fair bit on The Deuce and Electric Dreams.

I wonder how many potential viewers are unaware of its existence.

I honestly believe, in the case of Netfilx, the show popping up in the menue when the users log in would be enough advertising.

All Access has the disadvantage of needing people to subscribe to their service in the first place. Netflix can just show it to their pre-existing user base.
 
^^^ When I hear SM-G say:
"She's a legend; it's Michelle Yeoh",

....I can't help but think of Jesse Pinkman saying:
"It's Michelle, Yo".
;)
 
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I honestly believe, in the case of Netfilx, the show popping up in the menue when the users log in would be enough advertising.

All Access has the disadvantage of needing people to subscribe to their service in the first place. Netflix can just show it to their pre-existing user base.

Interntionally that is not large. In the US Netflix does have a large penetration of over 50%. However overseas most countries are under 30% market penetration. That is why they are paying so much for trek. They want to gain subscribers overseas where they have a large amount of growth potential.

Right now over half of netflix's subscribers are in the US. The number of people who have netflix overseas is not close to the US.
 
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