Season 2 Discovery is still SNW's best season.
Discovery is a very good show
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Season 2 Discovery is still SNW's best season.
Agreed! Ep 5 of season 2 SNW is great but it's the only episode I have really enjoyed this season. And I haven't scooped up either season of SNW for rewatches like I have with Discovery. Discovery has become my comfort show faster than any other show.
Exactly. I have better things to do than sit around arguing about where it all fits into canon. Things like actually enjoying the shows.
In a similar boat to you. I've re-watched Discovery a number of times already (about to start my S1 run through)The reaction gives me joy
Agreed! Ep 5 of season 2 SNW is great but it's the only episode I have really enjoyed this season. And I haven't scooped up either season of SNW for rewatches like I have with Discovery. Discovery has become my comfort show faster than any other show.
Discovery is one of my all time favorite Trek shows. The characters, the writing, and the visuals, all top notch. A more than worthy entry to the Trek pantheon. Another thing I appreciate about it is what the series has had to say across its run and how it's weaved it's themes through the narrative. And Michael Burnham is one of mt favorite Trek characters period.
Soooo…I’m trying to make it through Season 1, to better understand the references from Season 2 (which I watched for Pike and Co.)…I’m on episode 9, and…I’m looking at a tortured prisoner being raped. Well, I was. I turned it off.
Whoever decided this was a good concept to explore on Star Trek should have been forcibly removed from the property.
And yes, I remember the TNG episode with the telepathic rapist and Troi. This is on a whole different level of graphic and violent and twisted.
Whoever decided this was a good concept to explore on Star Trek should have been forcibly removed from the property.
And yes, I remember the TNG episode with the telepathic rapist and Troi. This is on a whole different level of graphic and violent and twisted.
Well, they are not there any more. Don't know about the forcibly removed part. Probably make a good story.
It's not great but Trek has explored the darker facets of humanity too. And TNG, and TOS, were often too light with something like rape.
I think a heavy theme can be explored without an actual rape scene. They could have showed him in therapy dealing with his PTSD and made the audience understand what happened to him without a visual.
I was distracted for a minute helping a kid with something and glanced back at the screen to see…that.
I was so not prepared.
Well, it makes more sense further in the season but if you're not ready then yeah it would have that impact.
Yeah, DIS S1 is actually not really a show to watch with a kid around.
I will say that I don't think depicting sexual assault is inherently an illegitimate artistic choice; it depends on context. My biggest problem is when the sexual assault of women is played for titillation or shock value, because of how common real-life sexual violence is. I don't think that applies to the scene with Ash in DIS S1. Also, subsequent revelations in DIS S1 will recontextualize that scene in important ways.
The thing with Voq, you mean? It’s kind of Wonder Woman 1984-ish. It’s still Ash’s body and he did not consent. I’m personally really uncomfortable with any sexual assault scene, and if I’d known that was coming I’d have skipped it altogether. Combining torture and a kind of mind rape plus using his body like that..it’s so over the top dark.
There's a whole ENT episode where rape gets brushed off as hijinks. The rapist gets away with it, no consequences.
Terrible stuff.
Which episode was that?
I don’t recall any.
Hijinks is the wrong word, but the rapist in question gets a bit of a roughing up from Archer before he’s allowed to walk away. ‘Be on your merry way’ says Archer or something like that. It’s all just brushed off and the offending character gets away with it, whilst T’Pol ends up in a serious mess.
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