Discovery at STLV. The massive info dump

[Mage]

^ This is insanity. All good judgments happen before the evidence is considered.

The trailers ARE the evidence we have now. When the show comes out we'll have more evidence and be able to reevaluate.



Seems kind of strange to me, but whatever floats your boat.

James was talking in jest.

And honestly, you can't judge a show on trailers. You can't say the show is bad. You can only say what I've seen SOFAR makes me either curious or doubtful or hyped or...... Whatever. But you can't judge the actual show. You see several (yes several, not one) episode to judge that.
You used the word reevaluate. That implies there was an actual show to give judgement on. Here's a little clip from Stargate SG1, to help you realise why trailers are the way they are.

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[Mr Awe]

Exactly.

I judged the show as soon as the anouncement was made and watching it will not change my mind!

Well, I judged it before it was announced. Yeah, immediately after Enterprise was cancelled, I knew that someday there'd be another ST series. And, I knew that it would suck!

I'll be sure to watch every episode avidly just so I can gloat that I was correct all those years ago!

 

[Mage]

Well, I judged it before it was announced. Yeah, immediately after Enterprise was cancelled, I knew that someday there'd be another ST series. And, I knew that it would suck!

I'll be sure to watch every episode avidly just so I can gloat that I was correct all those years ago!

Ladies and gentlemen, the quintessential Trekkie!!

 

[USS Triumphant]

I want one of the uniforms from that Stargate Trek parody now.

 

[Tomalak]

Hmm, is Stargate the TV show canon in the Trek universe?

 

[USS Triumphant]

Hmm, is Stargate the TV show canon in the Trek universe?

Star Trek AND Stargate both exist in the Tommy Westphall universe. But Trek exists as a show in Stargate. So the whole thing Is a flustercluck.

 

[JD]

Are there actually ways to connect all of those shows, or is that just a joke?

Doesn't take much twisting actually. A simple look at the trailers will do.

I saw the trailers, and I thought, design changes aside, it actually felt very much like Trek.
It really is amazing how differently people can interpret things.

 

[Mudd]

You know, why should anyone care?

Is there a healthy, mature reason for people who don't like the look of an upcoming TV show to hang out and complain about it instead of finding something that they enjoy doing, instead?

 

[CorporalClegg]

No.

 

[Jedi_Master]

The trailers ARE the evidence we have now. When the show comes out we'll have more evidence and be able to reevaluate.



Seems kind of strange to me, but whatever floats your boat.

Woosh?

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Are there actually ways to connect all of those shows, or is that just a joke?.

From what I gathered at glancing at the site, the show takes place in his mind, and then there are characters from other shows that cross over into his mind show, so in theory all those other shows exist in his mind as well as a single universe. Then those shows have tangental connections to others and then to others, so yes?

I remember as a kid I found some tv-crossovers website that connected Team Knight Rider (the 90's sequel to Knight Rider that had a bunch of talking cars, hence the name) took place in the Star Trek universe by a mention of a single person, if I remember correctly.

 

[Fateor]

You know, why should anyone care?

Is there a healthy, mature reason for people who don't like the look of an upcoming TV show to hang out and complain about it instead of finding something that they enjoy doing, instead?

Yes, because if they complain enough the people making the TV Show will be forced by the network execs to fix things.

 

[uniderth]

I saw the trailers, and I thought, design changes aside, it actually felt very much like Trek.
It really is amazing how differently people can interpret things.

 

[BillJ]

Yes, because if they complain enough the people making the TV Show will be forced by the network execs to fix things.

Nope.

 

[JD]

From what I gathered at glancing at the site, the show takes place in his mind, and then there are characters from other shows that cross over into his mind show, so in theory all those other shows exist in his mind as well as a single universe. Then those shows have tangental connections to others and then to others, so yes?

I remember as a kid I found some tv-crossovers website that connected Team Knight Rider (the 90's sequel to Knight Rider that had a bunch of talking cars, hence the name) took place in the Star Trek universe by a mention of a single person, if I remember correctly.

I'm aware of the Tommy Wetphall thing, I had just never seen that big of a list before. Most of the time it was just a handful of shows, like St. Elsewhere, the Law & Orders, Homicide: Life on the Streets, The X-Files, ect. I'd never seen one including thigns like the Star Treks before.

The designs are pretty much the most minor thing possible when it comes to Trek. Every one of the shows has made extensive changes to the look of the ships, aliens, and tech. Just look how different things are as we go from TOS, to the TOS movies, to TNG, to the TNG movies.

 

[ozzfloyd]

Yes, because if they complain enough the people making the TV Show will be forced by the network execs to fix things.

lol. No they will not.

 

[uniderth]

The designs are pretty much the most minor thing possible when it comes to Trek.

If they're so minor then why not make it look like "The Cage"?

Every one of the shows has made extensive changes to the look of the ships, aliens, and tech. Just look how different things are as we go from TOS, to the TOS movies, to TNG, to the TNG movies.

Clearly, but you do understand that those design changes make sense in a linear progression. "Generations" didn't ignore the existing design of the Enterprise. TMP depicted the design change as a refit.

Granted, the change in Klingons in TMP is a tougher issue. But I don't have an issue with either TMP Klingons or Discovery Klingons.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

If they're so minor then why not make it look like "The Cage"?

Because they want to attract more than a tiny handful of aging diehards. Its not 1964 anymore.

 

[Mudd]

Yes, because if they complain enough the people making the TV Show will be forced by the network execs to fix things.

Nope.

 

[Tuskin38]

or Discovery Klingons.

I'm actually surprised to hear that, based off your other criticisms.