Discovery's great mystery no one was talking about has been solved. Jeff Russo is scoring Discovery. Has anyone heard anything from him?
Discovery at SDCC - Consolidated Thread
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The tech however doesn't fit, it could however fit post Voyager.
Only the design.
That is pretty much everything. If they are consisent with TOS, the ships will be faster than Voyager.
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Temporal Cold War. That's the only way any of this makes sense. Wherever that Klingon sarcophagus ship came from, Burnham's gonna end up having to go back in time and undo the events that led to it being there for the Shenzou to discover. And in the process either erase herself from history or change the timeline to the point her parents don't get killed.
I think a massive reset would be the worst thing they could do.
I agree - but I don't see how they can avoid it at this point. Either this series hits the universe reset button, or (to 'remain true to canon') TOS is going to have to get 'Re-Remastered' to an extent that would give George Lucas an ulcer.
Or everybody's going to just disown the show and not bother to see any of the for-pay episodes.
The Temporal Cold War is dead and buried. I would be surprised if outside of any specific time travel episodes it is ever mentioned again, and then it would only be in passing as a nod. The show runners didn't want to do it in the first place (the suits forced it on them), they never really fleshed it out, and they gave it a unceremonious and ridiculous ending. No one is returning to it. Additionally, the writers and producers of Discovery would never erase a whole season or more of their characters and their contributions to the Star Trek universe. With all that they are discussing that the heart of the show will be intercharacter relationships and dynamics and telling a cohesive story over a whole season that isn't neatly wrapped up at the end, there is no way the delete all of it. The reset button is also dead and buried. Phillip J. Fry may have been right about it, but that was a decade ago.
But I guess this is a lot of wordage taking a largely unserious statement and treating it very seriously. I realize that you just don't like the idea of there being an adopted sister of Spock's that we never heard of before. It doesn't violate canon unless you can point to a line where anyone stated or implied that Sarek only had the two boys, Spock and Sybok. But maybe you consider Star Trek V to be a big old canon violation too. Never heard of Sybok before then either.
Ok, I've been supportive of Discovery since I first heard about it. This is the first thing that makes me want to bang my head too. Years ago some writer pulled Spock's half brother Sybock out of their ass and now someone else is pulling an adopted sister out of theirs?Spock has an adopted sister now? Sybock 2.0
May not technically break canon, but it sure does strain credulity and suspension of disbelief right up to the breaking point. Sarek won't talk to his own flesh-and-blood son after he joins Starfleet, but he not only keeps up with and mentors Starfleet officer Burnham but helps pick out her commanding officer for her? How the hell does that make any sense?
A never-before-hinted-at sibling of a particular long-running character, from out of nowhere, is a narrative trick you can get away with once. Twice with the same character, and you'll deserve all the scorn you'll get.
A never-before-hinted-at sibling of a particular long-running character, from out of nowhere, is a narrative trick you can get away with once. Twice with the same character, and you'll deserve all the scorn you'll get.
OK, new theory. The reason no one mentions/speaks of Spock's adopted sister in TOS or after: As far as the Federation (inc. Spock/Sarek/Amanda) knows, Michael Burnham died in 2255 with the entire crews of the Shenzhou and Europa, a tragedy that sparked a short Federation-Klingon war. In fact, the survivors of the Shenzhou are picked up by Section 31 and impressed* (in the old naval sense of the word) into the crew of the Discovery for a black ops mission deep into the Klingon Empire** to heal (or is that exploit?) the political rift Burnham caused and short-circuit the war.
A war that presumably ends in a battle/peace mission at Axanar...
* They don't necessarily have to die at series' end, but they ain't never coming home.
** Which neatly sidesteps any need to see Spock, the Enterprise or most other TOS characters/settings.
A war that presumably ends in a battle/peace mission at Axanar...
* They don't necessarily have to die at series' end, but they ain't never coming home.
** Which neatly sidesteps any need to see Spock, the Enterprise or most other TOS characters/settings.
I disagree. There are parts of canon that are not flexible (things strongly hinted at, or things all but explicitly stated), but not having referenced or excluded an adopted (?) sibling, I don't think qualifies. I would say things like "a disastrous first contact with Klingons leading to decades of conflict" would be one of them that is not flexible, but we already bent the heck out of that bit of canon (along with first contact with Ferengi, ugh, and meeting the Borg in 'Q, Who?', versus the Hanson's already knowing about them for years and years).
That said, I am really interested to see how Michal's relationship with Sarek impacts and informs us of his relationship with Spock. Instead of reacting defensively (as I have seen posters do on other websites) and saying that "this is destroying canon...how can Sarek not talk to Spock but mentor Michal?...this is a disaster", I look at it as an opportunity to find out more about Sarek. What was he like in this timeframe? Why did he and Spock really fall out? Why didn't they talk? How does Sarek balance and understand his relationship and duty to mentor Michal with his of Spock? This is all one big opportunity to learn more than we know; it is not destroying what we knew.
I like the detail you have put into this, and it seems like it might hold together, but it seems a long way to go just to answer, why we haven't heard about an adopted sister of a taciturn character. But that is what fannon is all about. I applaud you. I guess we will all find out if you are close to the mark starting on Sep 24, if not sooner.
Spock went something like twenty years without telling Kirk he had a brother. In fact, Kirk was pretty surprised to find out Sarek was his father, and that was after the entire wedding debacle.
