Disco Writer used the N word in the writers room.

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  1. cultcross but on halloween

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    I would love to see your basis for this comment. Average mainstream liberals call people "House N----" do they?

    Post not poster please Rahul.
     
  2. The Were-Behr

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    Well, this liberal is always talking about Gene Coon.
     
  3. Lord Garth

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    You lost me there. No one I know who's an "average liberal white" has ever said "Uncle Tom", "House (you know what)", or "Coon". But I live in Massachusetts, so maybe it's different up here.

    I think black people can speak for themselves without your help.
     
  4. Jackson_Roykirk

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    Did HR warn him about the Irish slur he repeated as well while recounting this story from his past about what a cop once said to him? Or maybe HR didn't care about that.
     
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  5. Guy Gardener

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    HR only cares about the complaint.

    We've all just assumed that the cop was a dude?
     
  6. Ghost Minion Dave

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    Those terms really haven't been "the Norm" since about the late '60 to mid-70's.
    (and we can all probably thank Archie Bunker for that)
    Oh sure, one can still occasionally find it if one really goes looking, but that over-generalized definition of current White Liberals, is just another way for Very Right Leaning Conservatives to use fear-mongering in an attempt to make their own biases and bigotry appear more normal and acceptable.
    The kind of thinking you are spouting, is just as harmful and condescending.
     
  7. Jackson_Roykirk

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    Mosley referred to the cop as "he" in his story.
     
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  8. Tim Thomason

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    Gene C*** was a great writer.
     
  9. TREK_GOD_1

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    When blacks "step out of line"--whether in elections or causes supported / driven by white liberals, but blacks see it as not in their best interests or dare to vote for someone sans a "D" next to their name, yes, they have been called "Coons", "House Ni**ers" and worse. This is nothing new and still exists to this day. That some around here are not exposed to it does not remove if from modern sociopolitical dialogue/grievances of those who sell themselves as the keepers of all freedom / caretakers of all of the "people of color.".

    He can post whatever BS he desires, as it is incorrect, shines a light on why he's posting it, which is the true concern of those who scream to the skies above about how concerned and tolerant they are about any particular group...until said group does not ankle-shackle itself with their protected, controlling worldviews.

    See my response to cultcross.

    Do not assume anything. I am half black, half white (mentioned in other threads). Black people are my people, Lord Garth. Black people (like the few in this thread) speak for themselves, and will continue to do so, despite the consternation of those who believe all black people should perform the Marx Brothers walk with all perceptions of white liberals.

    No.

    Now, in the Mosely case, he falsely assumed he had his right to speak about his own life/identify experiences. He did not have that right, as others determined what he could and could not say / what was offensive as they defined it. He made the right decision in leaving and exposing the entire matter.

    You could not be more incorrect. Perhaps you (and others here) are not actively involved in the more involved social/political circles. I have been and remain involved, and from one side of this country to another, what the media will never show you is the real face of white liberalism when those they feel they have some ideological "ownership" over dare to live for/examine/fight for self-interest that they do not (or will not) recognize. If anyone believes white liberals are somehow alien to racial slurs, or instantly turn on black people when the latter doe not walk in lockstep with people/ideas that do not uplift/help them, then they are simply out of touch with what has and still happens, or (as noted earlier) some are more interested in believing/protecting white liberalism to the point of turning on those they claim to empathize with/support, as seen in the number of posts in this thread.

    Always telling.
     
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  10. Tuskin38

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    People can’t read minds or every single post you’ve ever made.
     
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    If that statement is to be considered true, then it should also follow that no one assume to know which board member is black to any degree and who is not either...yet some did.
     
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  12. Lord Garth

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    I apologize for the mistake, TREK_GOD_1. I thought you were white, based off the avatar. A faulty assumption. Looking back on it, Star Trek hasn't had any black Gods, arguably except for Captain Sisko. So it would make sense that you'd go with Gary Mitchell, especially given that you're a TOS Fan but not a DS9 Fan.

    Nevertheless, what I said about my experiences living in Massachusetts still stands.
     
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  13. DEWLine

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    Judging by the phrasing of his essay - and he did not name the show where the writers' room happened - I suspect that such was his intention. I may well be wrong.
     
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    STD is nothing but corporate product. Stamped piece-work.
     
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  15. Tuskin38

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    No it isn’t, also what does that has to do with this topic in any way?

    Are you just posting in this sub forum now because you want everyone to know how much you hate this show?
     
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    Technically, aren't they all?At least the Genes had some vision in the 1960s as well as Piller, Moore, Behr in the 80s/90s. Which of DSC's 20 or 200 revolving door co- or main- showrunners have had anything that really gelled?

    DSC has less nuanced and more blunt writing, even compared to TNG's most blunt days. But if TNG wasn't given $1.3 mil per episode for a thrill. Well, audience thrills perhaps but that's about it.
     
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    I think the difference is the has never strong vision as to what it wants to be since Fuller was fired. It has been winging it ever sense to mixed results were CBS suits proably have to much control. Maybe not the other shows that Kurtzman has created thus he cares more about them. Jason
     
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  18. Lord Garth

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    Nothing. He wants to drive the discussion into the tangent we're in because it's his bread-and-butter now that the "fun" is over. Or he's just doing a drive-by. Which is another one of his tried-and-trues.

    Correct.

    I think Michelle Paradise will be running things from here on out on a foreseeably permanent basis. I want to see the direction she takes the series before making a summary judgment on Discovery.

    DS9 also went through several permutations during its seven-season run. During the first two seasons it was primarily focused on DS9's immediate area with the station, Bajor, the Cardassians, and the Maquis. The third season brought in the Dominion. The fourth season had a war with the Klingons. Then the fifth season built up to the Dominion War of the sixth and seventh seasons. In the middle of DS9's run, someone could've arguably said DS9 lacked focus. They could make the case (though I wouldn't have agreed with it, now or then).

    I think they decided after the first season that they didn't want Discovery to be a prequel. Then spent the story arc of the second season getting the show from where it was in the first season to where it'll be from the third season on.

    Alex Kurtzman has been involved with DSC since the beginning, even though he wasn't the one who created it. I think Kurtzman cares as much about DSC as Rick Berman cared about TNG. Rick Berman didn't create TNG but I don't think anyone doubts he cared about it.
     
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  19. Serveaux

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    Yep. Leaving no fingerprints.
     
  20. Lord Garth

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    Nothing positive can come out of any further interaction with you.
     
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