That's exactly what's going to happen, and ugh.
Spoilers DISC*ACTORS* and future direction for the show
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That's exactly what's going to happen, and ugh.
To the OP, I would put Michelle Yeoh in that class. So is Whoopi but she was not there at the start.
Fine with Lorca being there for only 1 season. Though, let us see about PU Lorca's fate first before we say anything for certain.
Fine with Lorca being there for only 1 season. Though, let us see about PU Lorca's fate first before we say anything for certain.
If I were Saru, I'd demand a transfer at that point. Even if he's buried the hatchet with Burnham, it would be galling to have Starfleet reinstate your disgraced former XO and make them the commanding officer of a ship that should be given to you.
Agreed. It's why there should be a writers' bible for the show. Ron D Moore supposedly had one for BSG (at least for the earlier seasons - S3 onwards got silly and he clearly took his eye off the ball). This is probably due to the initial show-runner/production difficulties but IMO DISC's main problem is that they can "do" a character-driven episode, a plot-arc, or other things, but not all together as they don't have an over-arching narrative with a series of rules within which to anchor it all (which others have said already on here).
Now, I know (as others have stated) that it still is doing better than previous ST series in their S1 - but that's a low bar in the "new TV paradigm". IMO DISC "gets" the series-based format but hasn't (partly due to reasons beyond its control) implemented it properly and was a "rush job". It'd be a crying shame if that sunk what could be not just a very good show but an outstanding show that really expanded the franchise (and NOT in a JJ way).
Not canon.
so....actors....
yeah we've gone rather off topic! Anyone think of an actor who is good but not (yet) A-list and would probably sign on for a multi-season stint?
Admiral Hanson was in command of an Excelsior class ship in BOBW. Admiral Hayes was in command of a ship and probably the fleet in FC.
It doesn't have to be for more than one season, though. I kinda prefer the uncertainy of not knowing if the lead cast survives or not.
I think they will feel the need and will be correct to not just replace him but with a actor of his caliber and maybe even double down with two big name stars. Not sure if that will be enough because people do seem to love the Lorca character and it's going to feel like something is missing. My other guess is they might bring in a established character who is already beloved like Scotty or even Spock. I could see both of the actors from the Kelvin UNiverse movies signing on for a year. Maybe even Kirk. I think elevating Mudd as regular adds more than Cornwall would. More talented actor and more interesting character. Cornwall works well right now basically as the Admiral Forrest or Admiral Ross to the show.
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Much easier to just make Saru the captain, with Burnham as his XO.
That's my preferred solution.
since I hope for Shukar to be the new security chief, I'd say Linda Cardellini as new XO under Saru and Mark Addy in a role limited to six episodes, either as the antagonist or ally
Admiral Ross was a passenger aboard the USS Bellerophon, not her CO. I'm pretty sure there was a reference to her actual captain, though they weren't seen.
Admiral Hanson may have been in a CO chair (on the E-D's own battle bridge set from the same episode), but there's no evidence that he was literally in charge of the ship. My headcannon has it that Hanson was on a battle bridge of some starship, directing the battle, and communicated to Riker and co. from there.
As for "Admiral" Kirk, to his credit when he took over the Enterprise in TMP, he busted HIMSELF back to Captain, in uniform at least.
Y'know what I'd like to see, though - a Commodore. We know they exist in about this era, and that they do in fact command starships. Maybe for the second season Discovery ends up in an actual command position that would warrant having someone more important than a mere Captain.
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Admiral Hanson may have been in a CO chair (on the E-D's own battle bridge set from the same episode), but there's no evidence that he was literally in charge of the ship. My headcannon has it that Hanson was on a battle bridge of some starship, directing the battle, and communicated to Riker and co. from there.
As for "Admiral" Kirk, to his credit when he took over the Enterprise in TMP, he busted HIMSELF back to Captain, in uniform at least.
Y'know what I'd like to see, though - a Commodore. We know they exist in about this era, and that they do in fact command starships. Maybe for the second season Discovery ends up in an actual command position that would warrant having someone more important than a mere Captain.
Mark
Ew.
Though I do love Sarah Shahi, but she's better suited for T'pol/Seven-level T+A than a Star Trek Captain.
The later is likely true... sadly. My guess is Admiral Cryptkeeper will restore Burnham's rank once the Discovery returns and the truth about Lorca is revealed.
Waste of Jason Isaacs.
I have a bad feeling that about half the cast is done. The series was originally an anthology that Fuller pitched, which meant NOBODY would have returned. But, CBS didn't like that...and yet still went and executed Fuller's basic plot line for S1. That means that most of the characters were written with finite storylines.
I think there is absolutely zero chance of Lorca returning. Lorca remaining as Captain for S2 would be absolutely ridiculous at this point. Starfleet has done some whack shiz in the past, but putting an imposter from a totally different universe in charge of a starship wouldn't fly.
Tyler is also likely done. I can't see how you can plausibly sell the fact that the Chief of Security had the leader of the Klingon war effort implanted into his mind, and murdered a fellow officer as a result.
I think it's likely that Paul Stamets is done as well. Paul is a spore scientist. Since it's pretty clear now that operating the drive is dangerous, and the drive will be written out due to continuity demands...I see absolutely no role for him on the ship in the future. He can't suddenly be a warp engineer. That would be nonsense.
Of course...maybe there's hope...
NuKirk- Cadet to Captain in a matter of hours
Prime Kirk steals a heavy cruiser and blows it up, nearly instigating a war- rewarded with a new command.
LaForge goes from being a junior officer who runs the Conn (something the series later clearly shows that any random idiot can do) to the Chief Engineer of Strafleet's most advanced ship
Picard kills thousands at Wolf 359 and endures unspeakable nightmarish traumas- back in command after drinking some wine with his asshole brother
Picard tortured and manipulated by Cardassians- immediately returned to command.
Spock killed in action and mumbo-jumboish resurrected and restored into a reborn body- immediately recomissioned as an executive officer.
Never mind...they'll probably all be back.
I think there is absolutely zero chance of Lorca returning. Lorca remaining as Captain for S2 would be absolutely ridiculous at this point. Starfleet has done some whack shiz in the past, but putting an imposter from a totally different universe in charge of a starship wouldn't fly.
Tyler is also likely done. I can't see how you can plausibly sell the fact that the Chief of Security had the leader of the Klingon war effort implanted into his mind, and murdered a fellow officer as a result.
I think it's likely that Paul Stamets is done as well. Paul is a spore scientist. Since it's pretty clear now that operating the drive is dangerous, and the drive will be written out due to continuity demands...I see absolutely no role for him on the ship in the future. He can't suddenly be a warp engineer. That would be nonsense.
Of course...maybe there's hope...
NuKirk- Cadet to Captain in a matter of hours
Prime Kirk steals a heavy cruiser and blows it up, nearly instigating a war- rewarded with a new command.
LaForge goes from being a junior officer who runs the Conn (something the series later clearly shows that any random idiot can do) to the Chief Engineer of Strafleet's most advanced ship
Picard kills thousands at Wolf 359 and endures unspeakable nightmarish traumas- back in command after drinking some wine with his asshole brother
Picard tortured and manipulated by Cardassians- immediately returned to command.
Spock killed in action and mumbo-jumboish resurrected and restored into a reborn body- immediately recomissioned as an executive officer.
Never mind...they'll probably all be back.
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But people have done bad things before while under the influence of an alien entity that possesses them, or spores (looking at you Spock) or some other external shit. They still get forgiven and get to go back to duty. Yes, killing Culber was extreme. But it still wasn't technically Tyler who did it. He wasn't in control.
I'd be cool with Captain Saru next season. He's come along way from 'choose your pain' and I think he's done a good job of commanding the ship in Lorca's absence. It would also be refreshing to have an alien commanding officer for once.
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