Did this bug you about Enterprise?

[GalaxyClass1701]

The amount of new aliens!

Ex:

Suliban
Xindi

I always wished that instead of creating a horde of new races they should have built on the stories of others, like The Gorn, Bolians ect...

What do you think?

 

[Guardian Bob]

I think they referenced enough of the old aliens. We knew basically nothing about Andorians and Telerites before the show.

 

[GalaxyClass1701]

I think they referenced enough of the old aliens. We knew basically nothing about Andorians and Telerites before the show.

That is what I am talking about, they did good there but why was there a need to create so many new species that were never talked about in TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voy?

 

[Guardian Bob]

I think they referenced enough of the old aliens. We knew basically nothing about Andorians and Telerites before the show.

That is what I am talking about, they did good there but why was there a need to create so many new species that were never talked about in TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voy?

I guess I can agree with that. But its true for every star trek series, they make their own. But we would never get the Denobulans.

 

[GalaxyClass1701]

I think they referenced enough of the old aliens. We knew basically nothing about Andorians and Telerites before the show.

That is what I am talking about, they did good there but why was there a need to create so many new species that were never talked about in TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voy?

I guess I can agree with that. But its true for every star trek series, they make their own. But we would never get the Denobulans.

I do like them and a few here and there would not have bothered me. I just feel that they could have focused on The Gorn. Tholians, Remans, Sheliak, Revisited aliens from COnspiricy.

 

[ToddKent]

I do like them and a few here and there would not have bothered me. I just feel that they could have focused on The Gorn. Tholians, Remans, Sheliak, Revisited aliens from COnspiricy.

I could be wrong but I think that the Gorn weren't ever encountered before "Arena."

Also, the Federation didn't seem to be aware of the Remans until the Dominion War (or just after it).

And the Conspiracy Aliens weren't discovered until TNG Season 1.

But I do think Enterprise did a good job of using preexisting aliens on numerous occasions (the Coridans, the Rigellians, Nausicans, the Axanar, etc.) several of whom had only been verbally mentioned and never before seen on camera.

 

[pookha]

i loved how enterprise filled out the background on a lot of my favorite aliens from tos.

but no i dont have issue for there being new species.

for one thing look how little the tos aliens were ever even mentioned in tng , ds9 ect much less being seen.

the federation even by the tos era is a pretty big place with possibly hundreds of worlds.
in tng we hear of some races that contact would have been made with much earlier then when we first see them.

either the races on enterprise didnt spread out very much (the denobulians mostly dont transplant else where .. considering tos mostly has to do with the frontier not unusual you wouldnt encounter a near space race)..
are no longer important overall as a race ( i suspect this might apply to the suliban.. individuals might be important and even some aspects of their culture but not having a home world)

or there are just one species in the midst of all the others we didnt learn the name of in the other shows.

 

[SFRabid]

I think they referenced enough of the old aliens. We knew basically nothing about Andorians and Telerites before the show.

That is what I am talking about, they did good there but why was there a need to create so many new species that were never talked about in TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voy?

Maybe to keep people from screaming "That's not canon" every other episode.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Hey, it's a big Galaxy. Just about every week TOS interacted with a new race never seen again. ENT not only expanded on TOS races but they introduced the Suliban and Xindi and told us a whole lot about them. A new fleshed out race? Great stuff.. and don't forget Phlox! I think ENT did a great job with this.

 

[GalaxyClass1701]

I do like them and a few here and there would not have bothered me. I just feel that they could have focused on The Gorn. Tholians, Remans, Sheliak, Revisited aliens from COnspiricy.

I could be wrong but I think that the Gorn weren't ever encountered before "Arena."

Also, the Federation didn't seem to be aware of the Remans until the Dominion War (or just after it).

And the Conspiracy Aliens weren't discovered until TNG Season 1.

But I do think Enterprise did a good job of using preexisting aliens on numerous occasions (the Coridans, the Rigellians, Nausicans, the Axanar, etc.) several of whom had only been verbally mentioned and never before seen on camera.

Remans might have been a bad example cut the Conspiricy critters could have used time travel Besides the Borg wern't encountered till TNG season 2 but they figured a way to use them in ENT.

 

[Warp Coil]

The amount of new aliens!

Ex:

Suliban
Xindi

I always wished that instead of creating a horde of new races they should have built on the stories of others, like The Gorn, Bolians ect...

What do you think?

ENT handled aliens both very well and very poorly. There were times when it seemed like ENT introduced too many aliens species that were never heard of or seen in the 23rd or 24th century. A lot of the forehead aliens-of-the-week fit this description. Also, the introduction of the Xindi really bothered me because I found the entire season 3 arc a little ridiculous. There's NO tension in a story like this when it's in a prequel. Earth is never in any real danger. We, as the audience, know this because we know that everything turns out okay in the end. We also know that the Xindi are really never referenced again so clearly their threat will be taken care of and they won't be back. So who the hell cares what happens? I sure didn't.

However, ENT sometimes used existing alien species in poor or unnecessary ways. Why did we need to see the Ferengi? Why did we need to see the Borg? I think the writers thought that they were supposed to be cute little winks to the audience but in the end, it wasn't needed.

Having said that, ENT did do a great job at developing and showing species such as the Vulcans and Andorians. They also made good use of the Romulans, and some of the stuff with the Klingons were okay.

 

[DarKush]

I don't think ENT introduced too many new aliens, though I wish they had developed the Tellarites, Andorians, Tholians, Orions, and Romulans more. And maybe introduced the Cardassians (as a nod to TNG/DS9), and done more with the Nausicaans.

 

[milo bloom]

Not really, there's a lot of aliens in the Federation that we might not have seen in later times (in the previous series, that is), but could still have been around during ENT's time. Where TPTB fell down with aliens is showing the Ferengi or Borg, and not keeping their presence "hidden" like they did the Romulans, and it also seemed wasteful to do stuff like the Suliban and the Xindi when there was the Romulan War just waiting to happen.

I guess my point is, if you're going to introduce new aliens, do something new with them; if you're just going to do a war arc, then use the Romulans like everybody was expecting as soon as they heard the general timeframe announced.

 

[cooleddie74]

To be fair, it wouldn't have been smart to reveal a whole slew of "new races" 100+ years before Kirk and TOS and then never have them show up again in any other branch of the franchise. You can always explain away the Suliban or Denobulans as receding into the shadows of history and rebuilding/restructuring themselves after the events of ENTERPRISE or lurking in the backgrounds of ships, starbases and Federation worlds just off-camera...but if you introduced WAY too many new species in a prequel timeframe and made them sound so important to the greater scheme of things in the quadrant or galaxy then it'd just confuse and upset most other casual and even hardcore fans later on when they're not seen or even referenced again.

 

[commodore64]

I don't think ENT introduced too many new aliens, though I wish they had developed the Tellarites, Andorians, Tholians, Orions, and Romulans more. And maybe introduced the Cardassians (as a nod to TNG/DS9), and done more with the Nausicaans.

Agreed.

 

[gblews]

The amount of new aliens!
I always wished that instead of creating a horde of new races they should have built on the stories of others, like The Gorn, Bolians ect...

What do you think?

That if TPTB had done more of what you suggest, there would have been an outcry from another faction of the fandom about "blatant fan service".

 

[cooleddie74]

Seeing as the show lasted barely 100 episodes, though, I think we got a lot of cultural exposure for races like the Andorians and Tellarites...if not as much as we'd likely have gotten had the series been renewed for a fifth year or even beyond.

 

[Voyagerian]

Well, the Gorn did make it in, thankfully-big Gorn fan here-in 'Mirror, Darkly', and the Tholians in 'Future Tense' I think the ep was, with the bottomless alien ship with the multigenome pilot, sought by both the Suliban, and the Tholians-another fave guest species. Canon could only be stretched so far-but, as has been criticized by some, ENT did so a number of times-not to any problem for me, though. I liked the addition of other races, but going back to the Andorians and Tellerites was for me also a great track to take, and it seems that bumped up the show, as well..if without ultimate success, given the forces arrayed against the series. Voyager added interesting races like Species 8472, or the Vidiiians, so this is not a new notion, but the Sulibans' part was so very intertwined with the entire Temporal Cold War-a controversial concept among fans, from what I've seen. The Sphere-Builders were great as well IMO, and the aliens of Silent Enemy....