I would hate to think that Jimmy Doohan died before he and Shatner could mend fences. Did they ever manage to put their feuding aside before Doohan passed on?
Did Shatner and Doohan ever patch things up?
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Who really cares? Seriously, this happens to millions of people around the world, so what difference does it make if these two "mended fences"?
I believe they had a kiss and cuddle on the set of TUC after making up over the dinner scene.
I'm guessing that, very likely, they did not. Doohan suffered from Alzheimer's...and as I learned when my dad started showing signs of it, the confusion of the disorder creates great fear and frustration in its victims.
As a result, they very often become paranoid, combative, and accusatory of even the very people around them who love them.
It's a sad way to wind down a once-vibrant life.
As a result, they very often become paranoid, combative, and accusatory of even the very people around them who love them.
It's a sad way to wind down a once-vibrant life.
Chris Doohan went on record shortly before his dad's death, saying that Shatner and his dad had a nice long chat and put the past to rest.
In addition, Jimmy Doohan himself said working on "Generations" with Shatner was very pleasant, and, iirc, Shatner said in his "Movie Memories" book that he had a good time working with Doohan and Koenig.
Sir Rhosis
In addition, Jimmy Doohan himself said working on "Generations" with Shatner was very pleasant, and, iirc, Shatner said in his "Movie Memories" book that he had a good time working with Doohan and Koenig.
Sir Rhosis
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww....
Shatner's on the left BTW.
Shatner's on the left BTW.
The Squire of Gothos said:
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww....
Shatner's on the left BTW.
Yeah, you can tell by the fake fir.
James Doohan wasn't suffering from Alzheimer's when he did the convention circuit all through the 70s, 80s and 90s. During the TOS movie era he began slamming Shatner quite a bit - most of it was in fun to get audiences laughing, but he did admit in some print interviews that he didn't like Shatner much, and gave examples of his scene stealing, etc.
But all of the cast had opportunities to settle scores with Shatner when all their autobiographies were coming out - remember that biographies containing controversy sell much better than feel-good ones.
Supposedly Doohan and Shatner put aside their rivalries and talked things out over a scotch some time before "Generations", IIRC.
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest that the Alzheimer's had anything to do with the animosity between Jimmy and the Shat. I was just suggesting that in the last 2 or so years of his life, he was unlikely to trust pretty much ANYONE enough to genuinely "bury the hatchet" in any sort of long-term personal dispute.
He was CERTAINLY in possession of all or most of his marbles at the time of GEN, so it's nice to know that, while they were hardly ever the 'best of friends', at least they were apparently able to amicably work together.
He was CERTAINLY in possession of all or most of his marbles at the time of GEN, so it's nice to know that, while they were hardly ever the 'best of friends', at least they were apparently able to amicably work together.
It is a cute pic, not as cute as puppies but cute.
So did Shatner have problems with just about everyone on TOS?
So did Shatner have problems with just about everyone on TOS?
I remember seeing Doohan twice at convention, once in the late 80's and again early 90's. He definitely played that stuff up, and there was always someone there to ask the pointed questions. But I certainly hoped they were able to work out any differences they may have had. In TV interviews and such, Shatner always acted as if he had no idea that the other cast members were even slightly miffed with him until they started publishing their individual stories. But they were all certainly professional enough that I don't ever remember seeing any of it on the screen.
I do so miss Jimmy Doohan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Doohan
Part of why TMP is my favorite is that everybody still looked pretty skinny...
Kinda ironic that Doohan died on July 20 (Apollo 11 anniversary), and that the normally-reclusive Neil Armstrong had come out for Jimmy's Farewell Tribute in 2004.
http://planetxpo.com/doohan/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Doohan
Part of why TMP is my favorite is that everybody still looked pretty skinny...
Kinda ironic that Doohan died on July 20 (Apollo 11 anniversary), and that the normally-reclusive Neil Armstrong had come out for Jimmy's Farewell Tribute in 2004.
http://planetxpo.com/doohan/
Just a factual point, it's a common misperception that Armstrong was reclusive after his moon trip. He taught at the University of Cincinatti, was involved in 2 accident investigations, is the spokesmen for several companies, and is on the board of directors of more than a half dozen other companies. Hardly reclusive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong
Mr Awe
Well, "reclusive" is relative. Armstrong's accomplishment on Luna was something he could have EASILY whored out for the rest of his life. But he chose to live a relatively quiet (and, quite frankly, classy) life instead.
But unlike "Buzz" Aldrin (for example), he rarely did media interviews or news commentaries about NASA. So to most of the world, not waving himself in everyone's face all the time capitalizing and exploiting his prestige has given the mistaken appearance of reclusion.
(BTW, I don't think Aldrin is a big media whore, but he will do "expert" interviews on NASA related news when asked, which I only remember seeing Armstrong doing (WITH Aldrin) during the 30th Anniversary of the moon landing.)
But unlike "Buzz" Aldrin (for example), he rarely did media interviews or news commentaries about NASA. So to most of the world, not waving himself in everyone's face all the time capitalizing and exploiting his prestige has given the mistaken appearance of reclusion.
(BTW, I don't think Aldrin is a big media whore, but he will do "expert" interviews on NASA related news when asked, which I only remember seeing Armstrong doing (WITH Aldrin) during the 30th Anniversary of the moon landing.)
^^^
"Reclusive" gets bandied about because Armstrong didn't do the traditional media events. Instead, he lives a busy, productive life that has involved education and being a business leader. That's not reclusive under any definition.
People confuse "not doing media events" with reclusive. Or at least, the media, not surprisingly, portay it that way! Hey, you're not playing ball with us, you must be reclusive! Ha!
Mr Awe
"Reclusive" gets bandied about because Armstrong didn't do the traditional media events. Instead, he lives a busy, productive life that has involved education and being a business leader. That's not reclusive under any definition.
People confuse "not doing media events" with reclusive. Or at least, the media, not surprisingly, portay it that way! Hey, you're not playing ball with us, you must be reclusive! Ha!
Mr Awe
It's reclusive by relative perception, and not in actual fact.
Howard Hughes was reclusive. Armstrong just never got the big head after doing something no one else will ever do again (not just walk on the moon, but be the FIRST to walk on the moon). I've always respected him greatly.
Not like that whore Wally Schirra who used to hawk Sudafed on TV! (Just kidding...so he made a few bucks. Big whoop.)
Howard Hughes was reclusive. Armstrong just never got the big head after doing something no one else will ever do again (not just walk on the moon, but be the FIRST to walk on the moon). I've always respected him greatly.
Not like that whore Wally Schirra who used to hawk Sudafed on TV! (Just kidding...so he made a few bucks. Big whoop.)
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