• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Did Janeway Hate Carey?

There's this confidence married men have when talking to extremely, extremely, extremely attractive women because they are taken, to get past that "I'm too good for you prick, fuck off and die, as if" death-stare most women have as they wince waiting for another shitty pick up line.

"I can talk to you like you're a man or a child or an elderly aunt, because I can't want you, because I am in love with someone else who is over there, and I wouldn't risk that for all the tea in china, and talking to you is not a risk because I am fully content with my own thing."

But Joe definitely was trying to #### Seven in Relativity.

It's called cheating, but it's not cheating when you're in different solar systems from your honeybunny.

Most men are baboons.
 
Men who look like Carey don't hit on women who look like Seven. Not unless they're shit-faced.

Carey just wants a friend.

Or he's permanently rat-arsed, but functional.
 
I remember the scene and the conversation but never got any kind of impression that he was hitting on her.

Maybe some are projecting their own emotions onto Carey as in how they would react if they found themselves in a conversation with someone who looked like Seven. That's what they would do...therefore that is what he is doing.

Not that its a bad thing...its understandable. I'm just saying that if it's there it went right past me.

Next time I watch that scene I will pay closer attention.
 
"Men who look like Carey?"

He's more older than you think than, than ugly.

(DOB 08/16/1955.)

I saw Josh on a cop procedural drama recently, and he looked just like a Mummy.
 
Had Seven been an aggressively hairy dwarf called Abdul, I doubt anyone would construe Carey's words as anything other than being friendly.

But when you look like Seven, someone asking you for the time can be viewed as lecherous.

The only vibe I got from Carey was... "I'm so sad and lonely. I hope I don't die just before we get home."
 
She has fish eyes and a beady nose.

Everyone has a perfect ass without trying in the future.

Just another blond in the crowd.
 
It's always been a bummer to me that Voyager never developed their secondary characters more. However, since after season 4, almost everyone but Janeway, Seven and The Doctor had minimal development at best, it's just the way the cookie crumbled.

I liked to think that Carey took command of the Nightshift in Engineering, also that since he was a full lieutenant, and there were very few established officers that had more than an Ensign rank, he might have been in the Bridge command rotation. After all, Kim didn't start on the night shift til season 5, presumably Tuvok and Chakotay both shared that potentially with Paris. Once Paris became the full time Medic after Kes left, he probably had to pass a fair amount of those responsibilities off.

Also, like said before, he may have just been on the Shuttlecraft and Torpedo construction crew like Vorik, Dalby, Chell, Tabor, etc.
 
It's always been a bummer to me that Voyager never developed their secondary characters more. However, since after season 4, almost everyone but Janeway, Seven and The Doctor had minimal development at best, it's just the way the cookie crumbled.

It is a bit weird how all the minor characters pretty much disappeared in later seasons.
 
I see what you did there.

;)

After all, Kim didn't start on the night shift til season 5

Not to derail my own thread but... why did people always talk about the night shift as though it was somehow less of a challenge? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it day and night simultaneously on every planet that has life. Plus I doubt the average anomaly cares about Federation timetables.

I remember Paris mocking Kim because it was "only the night shift" (I also remember Kim being embarrassed when he spoke to his parents and they said he was in charge but he corrected them and said it was "only the night shift").

The idea that space is only interesting and busy during Earth based daylight hours is slightly hilarious.
 
Well, the "night shift" probably doesn't have as many ship-based things going on. Sure, they can stumble across an anomaly or an alien vessel any old time, but projects inside the ship might be saved for "daytime" when all the important people are awake.

Day shift: Re-align the magnetic couplers in the warp nacelles (just making shit up).
Night shift: Keep an eye on warp nacelles and make sure they don't explode. If they start to explode, wake up the day shift.
 
Night shift? It despends. In case something untoward happens everyone of the senior officers is awake and present, no matter if it is day or night.

As to Carey. Killing him off that late always struck me as ill-conceived. He should have reached the AQ, too. Then being promoted to Chief Engineer to another vessel. If they wanted to kill him off, he should have died from the beginning, together with Stadi, Janeway's first officer, the CMO and others......
 
Warhead

KIM: Helm, status?
JENKINS: Same as it was twenty minutes ago.
KIM: Refresh my memory.
JENKINS: Current speed warp six point three, heading oh twenty one mark two. Permission to speak freely, sir?
KIM: Granted.
JENKINS: We're on the night shift. Relax.

Jenkins seems to think nothing happens on the night shift too (maybe that's why she's working the night shift).

As I recall, Kim instantly wakes Chakotay to deal with the issue that arises so I guess the night shift could also be called... if anything happens, wake somebody up shift.
 
After all, Kim didn't start on the night shift til season 5

Not to derail my own thread but... why did people always talk about the night shift as though it was somehow less of a challenge? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it day and night simultaneously on every planet that has life. Plus I doubt the average anomaly cares about Federation timetables.

I remember Paris mocking Kim because it was "only the night shift" (I also remember Kim being embarrassed when he spoke to his parents and they said he was in charge but he corrected them and said it was "only the night shift").

The idea that space is only interesting and busy during Earth based daylight hours is slightly hilarious.

Well, the "night shift" probably doesn't have as many ship-based things going on. Sure, they can stumble across an anomaly or an alien vessel any old time, but projects inside the ship might be saved for "daytime" when all the important people are awake.

Day shift: Re-align the magnetic couplers in the warp nacelles (just making shit up).
Night shift: Keep an eye on warp nacelles and make sure they don't explode. If they start to explode, wake up the day shift.

It's usually appeared in Trek that there's less to do in the night shift. Fewer Officers on the bridge, probably fewer active officers in general. It makes some sense to have it set up that way, rather than have for example, a Science Lab running 24/7, you have the team work one or two shifts of the day and can shut it down so energy is used more efficiently.

It also seems that despite there being so many Starships and Space stations, a vast majority of life takes place on planets. Therefore making it simple to continue a day/night pattern aboard starships makes sense.

Getting back to Carey, Janeway didn't hate him. I would say that she probably had up to getting to the DQ had little interaction with him, otherwise it would have been much tougher for B'Elanna to get the Chief Engineer job.
 
It's like working at the front desk at a hotel. All of the guests are asleep at night. Occasionally you might have to check someone in or deal with a noise complaint from a drunk wedding party, but mostly you just sit around being bored. Day shift is where all the action is.
 
Warhead

KIM: Helm, status?
(He has a blonde lady pilot.)
JENKINS: Same as it was twenty minutes ago.
KIM: Refresh my memory.
JENKINS: Current speed warp six point three, heading oh twenty one mark two. Permission to speak freely, sir?
KIM: Granted.
JENKINS: We're on the night shift. Relax.
Jenkins seems to think nothing happens on the night shift too (maybe that's why she's working the night shift).

As I recall, Kim instantly wakes Chakotay to deal with the issue that arises so I guess the night shift could also be called... if anything happens, wake somebody up shift.

I remember an article in a newspaper: a nurse was fired because she slept in her night shift. Deliberately so. She removed her patients from their emergency bells to sleep without distraction........
Kim sleeping in his command chair during night shift would certainly be explanation for his lack of promotion.....:devil:
 
Night shift.

They know where the planets, resources and weird shit are in front of them, weeks in advance.

By travelling a little faster, or a little slower, they can control when Voyager makes planet fall, 3 hours after the day shift has had enough coffee to handle anything the universe might throw at them.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top