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[Vger23]

Would it kill them to release Chapel and Rand like they teased almost a decade ago? Or better yet re-release the TMP/TWOK Enteprise with paint that light doesn't shine through like it's a cheap toy...

The TWOK toy isn't cheap or crappy. The saucer is somewhat translucent when lit because they wanted to use a plastic that had a pearlescent look to it, reflecting the paint job in the film. Since the toy has no "lights on" feature, it's not a big deal unless you're constantly turning the lights on or displaying it next to a spotlight.

 

[Sibyl]

I think that's probably a bit much. While I am not impressed either, I think it was a fun attempt at something different, and they just miscalculated a bit.

It's certainly not the greatest travesty ever to confront man.

No, not the greatest travesty by a long shot, but I stand by my assessment. I've just seen how Trek fans (and collectible loving adults in general) have been treated for so many years. Studios and toy makers take advantage of people that are devoted to certain franchises and know that there are some out there that will dole out good money for horrible products.

This is just one example (can you honestly say that this looks anything like anything that's on fire, much less looks like the Enterprise did over Genesis?). And though I've fallen for them as well, the Fantasy Flight Games X-Wing and Attack Wing miniatures, while being exceptional in quality, are WAY over-priced for what they are.

I am happy with a lot of what's being offered in recent years, but this--thing--takes me back to the bad old days.

All personal opinion, of course. I just don't like feeling like I'm being taken advantage of.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I think it's more about what I believe the target market is for Starfleet uniform adult-onisees and other junk merchandising.

It's not targeted for us, the fans. It's targeted for non-fan friends of fans, significant others who have absolutely no clue what Star Trek is, such as my wonderful wife, for example, who bought me an Enterprise-shaped pizza cutter many years ago. Bless her heart, she has barely an idea about Star Trek, outside the limited conversations I have with her about it, and she thought it would be a neat thing to get. I would never buy such a thing for myself, but it's sitting on my shelf with the other collectibles, nonetheless. Such people see something Trek related and buy it for that special person thinking, "Oh! That's one of those silly little Star Track things that he/she loves so much. I don't think he/she has this yet, but I'm sure he/she will LOVE it! I'm getting it!!"

THAT is the target market for whom these things are focused. Most fans wouldn't buy such shit. And most "officially licensed" shit is just that - shit. The fans' loved ones and friends, however, who don't know any better? Yup!

 

[Gary Mitchell]

I think it's more about what I believe the target market is for Starfleet uniform adult-onisees and other junk merchandising.

It's not targeted for us, the fans. It's targeted for non-fan friends of fans, significant others who have absolutely no clue what Star Trek is, such as my wonderful wife, for example, who bought me an Enterprise-shaped pizza cutter many years ago. Bless her heart, she has barely an idea about Star Trek, outside the limited conversations I have with her about it, and she thought it would be a neat thing to get. I would never buy such a thing for myself, but it's sitting on my shelf with the other collectibles, nonetheless. Such people see something Trek related and buy it for that special person thinking, "Oh! That's one of those silly little Star Track things that he/she loves so much. I don't think he/she has this yet, but I'm sure he/she will LOVE it! I'm getting it!!"

THAT is the target market for whom these things are focused. Most fans wouldn't buy such shit. And most "officially licensed" shit is just that - shit. The fans' loved ones and friends, however, who don't know any better? Yup!

This is why I have a Space: 1999 snow globe.

 

[Sibyl]

I think it's more about what I believe the target market is for Starfleet uniform adult-onisees and other junk merchandising.

It's not targeted for us, the fans. It's targeted for non-fan friends of fans, significant others who have absolutely no clue what Star Trek is, such as my wonderful wife, for example, who bought me an Enterprise-shaped pizza cutter many years ago. Bless her heart, she has barely an idea about Star Trek, outside the limited conversations I have with her about it, and she thought it would be a neat thing to get. I would never buy such a thing for myself, but it's sitting on my shelf with the other collectibles, nonetheless. Such people see something Trek related and buy it for that special person thinking, "Oh! That's one of those silly little Star Track things that he/she loves so much. I don't think he/she has this yet, but I'm sure he/she will LOVE it! I'm getting it!!"

THAT is the target market for whom these things are focused. Most fans wouldn't buy such shit. And most "officially licensed" shit is just that - shit. The fans' loved ones and friends, however, who don't know any better? Yup!

Ah, yes, like people buying Jar Jar figures for OT fans.

Now I get it.

 

[Kor]

This thing is garbage.
Seriously, I don't know what else to say.

Kor

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Mirror, mirror, on the wall, what's the ugliest repaint of them all?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Ah, yes, like people buying Jar Jar figures for OT fans.

Now I get it.

Hell, ANY merchandising having to do with Jar Jar applies to this theory!

If DS wants to impress the fans with an SDCC exclusive, get that goddam Reliant out the door! I'd pay twice the going rate to get one.

 

[Sibyl]

Hell, ANY merchandising having to do with Jar Jar applies to this theory!

If DS wants to impress the fans with an SDCC exclusive, get that goddam Reliant out the door! I'd pay twice the going rate to get one.

Hear, hear!

 

[Vger23]

No, not the greatest travesty by a long shot, but I stand by my assessment. I've just seen how Trek fans (and collectible loving adults in general) have been treated for so many years. Studios and toy makers take advantage of people that are devoted to certain franchises and know that there are some out there that will dole out good money for horrible products.

This is just one example (can you honestly say that this looks anything like anything that's on fire, much less looks like the Enterprise did over Genesis?). And though I've fallen for them as well, the Fantasy Flight Games X-Wing and Attack Wing miniatures, while being exceptional in quality, are WAY over-priced for what they are.

I am happy with a lot of what's being offered in recent years, but this--thing--takes me back to the bad old days.

All personal opinion, of course. I just don't like feeling like I'm being taken advantage of.

I think it's more about what I believe the target market is for Starfleet uniform adult-onisees and other junk merchandising.

It's not targeted for us, the fans. It's targeted for non-fan friends of fans, significant others who have absolutely no clue what Star Trek is, such as my wonderful wife, for example, who bought me an Enterprise-shaped pizza cutter many years ago. Bless her heart, she has barely an idea about Star Trek, outside the limited conversations I have with her about it, and she thought it would be a neat thing to get. I would never buy such a thing for myself, but it's sitting on my shelf with the other collectibles, nonetheless. Such people see something Trek related and buy it for that special person thinking, "Oh! That's one of those silly little Star Track things that he/she loves so much. I don't think he/she has this yet, but I'm sure he/she will LOVE it! I'm getting it!!"

THAT is the target market for whom these things are focused. Most fans wouldn't buy such shit. And most "officially licensed" shit is just that - shit. The fans' loved ones and friends, however, who don't know any better? Yup!

I'm not trying be argumentative...but how are you being taken advantage of? They can't make you buy anything you don't like or want. So....


I can understand disappointment or even a certain level of frustration over the waste of having a product available that is not appealing. But...I'm not sure I'd feel "taken advantage of."

And, since this is a ComiCon exclusive, it's not like Granny or Auntie Doris is going to buy the Creamsicleprise for anyone by mistake.

So...no harm, no foul. It's a hunk of crap. But it's not anything to be enraged about.

 

[Vger23]

Hell, ANY merchandising having to do with Jar Jar applies to this theory!

If DS wants to impress the fans with an SDCC exclusive, get that goddam Reliant out the door! I'd pay twice the going rate to get one.

SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Quiet, will ya?????!!!!!

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

I'd pay twice the going rate to get the Enterprise-C from Diamond Select.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Which one?

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Which one?

Oh no! You're not fooling me. Won't go down that rabbit hole again!

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/what-did-the-enterprise-c-look-like-in-the-real-tng-universe.237559/

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/new-orleans-class.236362/page-3

 

[Sibyl]

I'm not trying be argumentative...but how are you being taken advantage of? They can't make you buy anything you don't like or want. So....


I can understand disappointment or even a certain level of frustration over the waste of having a product available that is not appealing. But...I'm not sure I'd feel "taken advantage of."

And, since this is a ComiCon exclusive, it's not like Granny or Auntie Doris is going to buy the Creamsicleprise for anyone by mistake.

So...no harm, no foul. It's a hunk of crap. But it's not anything to be enraged about.

I don't think anyone's enraged over this. Strong feelings, yes, but not enraged.

Perhaps "taken advantage of" is not exactly the right verbiage I'm looking for with this...thing. I am insulted that they'd consider this something that people would want to get as a con exclusive, though. Most con exclusives seem to be highly desirable. Not this.

Again, it's the concept that some suits think you can put any old crap out there, slap Star Trek or Star Wars on it, and charge FAR more than even reasonable markup would suggest.

...says the person that just paid five times what it cost new for a painted piece of plastic that's about to be removed from its package.

Yeah, I'm a sucker sometimes, too.

 

[Vger23]

I'd pay twice the going rate for a TOS Klingon D7 Battlecruiser with sound clips from Kor, Kang, and the guy who says "prepare to be boarded or destroyed!"

 

[CaptainMurdock]

The TWOK toy isn't cheap or crappy. The saucer is somewhat translucent when lit because they wanted to use a plastic that had a pearlescent look to it, reflecting the paint job in the film. Since the toy has no "lights on" feature, it's not a big deal unless you're constantly turning the lights on or displaying it next to a spotlight.

Compared to the version they released over a decade ago, This new version is a massive drop in quality. The 2007? version had the same paint and and the light didn't shine through the saucer either. It's a bit of a big deal for me since I like to take photos of my electronic ships for photoshop projects. So while I'm keen to get a Refit Enterprise, I'm going to have to wait until they fix that problem.

This video covers the problem I have with it.

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