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Defiance Season 2 Discussion

What I really want to know is why he was dressed as conquistador with a cape in the first episode this season, when almost everyone else still looks like a prospector from the 1930s.

Are capes now fashionable and appropriate in New York perhaps, or is Niles an obvious massive asshole.

Maybe Berlin p'nked him?

The new show runner is Kevin Murphy.

He seems to have some genre heft to his resume, and 3 seasons of Desperate Housewives.

(Although, I'm compelled to find out what the hell The O'Keefs are.)
 
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Of course Caprica, do you think I would throw a word like "heft" around because he produced Sabrina the Animated Teenage Witch?

(We all have to start somewhere.)
 
I thought Kevin Murphy had been the show runner since the pilot?

As for what Pottinger is up to, I'm pretty this is all going to come back to the Kaziri and Kelavar. At this point I'm pretty sure most of the big arks focused on all of the conflict over control of the town are going to come back to that. I'm not sure if his obsession with Amanda is a part of that, or just a personal thing.
 
Pottinger had the Doc put the implant in Amanda when she was stoned out an episode or two back. The implant was part of the secret tech that got hijacked before and why Pottinger was so determined to get it back.

But he and the Doc both got "infected" with the implants as well since they're nanite-based. Plus as it turned out the implants were older defective versions in the first place. So all three of them started having hallucinations as a result.
 
Oh he was around. The junior partner.

But Michael Taylor was in charge during season one.

http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2013/04/defiance-show-runner-will-exit-after-season-one
The article says that Rockne S. O'Bannon was a producer, but I believe he actually left before the pilot was even done. If I remember correctly, he worked on some of the initial development, but then left to do Cult. I was really hoping he would come back once that failed, but he did Revolution. Maybe now that that's over he'll come back to Defiance.
 
His dick is too big.

Imagine De Niro being given direction from Pauly Shore.

Besides.

He left.

####'im.

He left once, he'll leave again.
 
"Orbital Object 29-AL"

I guess they track the stuff larger than the Chrysler Building. My bad.

When before have they ever mentioned the war with Canada?

Lets just overstate who the players are in this war, The Earth Republic Vs. Canada.

Canada is not part of Earth?

Anyone ever call that?
 
Oh, yes! This was a great episode. Though strangely enough, the A plot with Nolan and Pottinger and the E-Rep squad checking out the crashed ship with the alien uber-assassin or whatever didn't really interest me that much. That was all by the numbers and predictable, even including the sacrifice of Churchill the Bio-manservant.

The various character sub-plots were where this episode shined. The sexist Castithan priest who ends up getting framed by Stahma. The scene near the beginning with Rafe visiting Datak and mocking him for his state of poverty he now lives in, especially the bit where Rafe laughed at Datak for having to shower now. Tommy and Berlin splitting and Berlin moving onto Nolan almost right away. I could probably stay entertained with all that without the ship story getting in the way. This is really compelling stuff.

Even, the story between Tommy and Irisa, while bringing back the oggy-boogy Irathient god crap didn't really dwell on the oogy-boogy, and Irisa is now realizing that whatever else she's dealing with, it certainly isn't a god.

Interesting idea there at the end where Pottinger's E-Rep superior got dressed an "alien drag" for lack of a better term by going to that club pretending to be a Castithan. Is that club supposed to for people to go disguised as another species, or is the guy just trying to blend in among actual Castithans?

Great episode, but on the nitpicky side, how likely is it that thirty years in the future, a girl who is familiar with Star Wars has never heard of a Barbie doll? Or is this a case where Barbie is no longer being manufactured while new Star Wars movie continue being pumped out? Is Disney still around in the 2040s? I'm guessing the E-Rep has a movie industry of some sort, Berlin intends her videos to be watched by someone. Seems fitting the Evil Empire is still around to provide entertainment to the moustache twirling villains of E-Rep.
 
Interesting idea there at the end where Pottinger's E-Rep superior got dressed an "alien drag" for lack of a better term by going to that club pretending to be a Castithan. Is that club supposed to for people to go disguised as another species, or is the guy just trying to blend in among actual Castithans?

It was a wannabee club. He was hitting on Alak's wife.

Well, this show has finally developed from, "nothing else to watch on Thursday" to "not bad, wonder what happens next?"

Datak and Rafe are quickly developing into the new Gakar and Londo. Hate each other but somehow always thrown together.
 
It was a wannabee club. He was hitting on Alak's wife.

I thought that but wasn't entirely certain. Hmm, how many of the Defiance aliens could pretend to be another species? Humans and Castithans could probably convincingly pull off being anybody, find one short enough even those little Ughnaught type guys. Though the Ughnaughts probably couldn't blend in as anyone else, nor could those gorilla guys. The Irathients would take more work to appear human or even Castithan.
 
Seems to me that, for all her talk of "discretion," Amanda now has some prime blackmail material on the Viceroy . . ..
 
I thought that but wasn't entirely certain. Hmm, how many of the Defiance aliens could pretend to be another species? Humans and Castithans could probably convincingly pull off being anybody, find one short enough even those little Ughnaught type guys. Though the Ughnaughts probably couldn't blend in as anyone else, nor could those gorilla guys. The Irathients would take more work to appear human or even Castithan.
Considering that they're all Humans with make-up/prosthetics, I'd say a Human or Casthithan could easily impersonate any of the others if their height was appropriate.

The fetish thing just seems silly. Especially Alak's wife who, for the most part, seems to actually hate the Casthithan way of life; why would she get off impersonating one?
 
The fetish thing just seems silly. Especially Alak's wife who, for the most part, seems to actually hate the Casthithan way of life; why would she get off impersonating one?

Because her new D.J. pal convinced her that it would help save her marriage if she could understand what it's really like to be Casti. She's trying to understand her husband's culture from the inside out, so he won't complain that she's too "human" anymore.

Not saying that's a good idea, but that's what she's going for. In her case, it's not a fetish thing; it's about trying to become what she thinks Alak wants . . ..
 
It's totally a fetish for the Viceroy.

(Mercado sounds a lot like Mikado. Almost like they were playing with our subconsciouses.)

Looking at him painting his face, I almost thought that he was applying a new drug.

Do you remember Minbari War Syndrome?

That.

It's probably no different than all those people in the TNZ who like to dress up as ponies before they boff.
 
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So Berlin has boinked both men that Irissa loves. What is her game? And Nolan was so ticked that Amanda walked away from him to sit with Pottinger so he was quick to jump on Berlin? The only character I like watching is Stahma. She is totally ruthless in achieving her goals. Loved the way she "cast" her stone. I think Datak has a better understanding and maybe appreciation of her abilities now.
About all of the characters have big changes from last season. Not a bad thing at all, but if you missed many episodes you'd hardly recognize these characters.
 
This was a great episode.
I thought it was kind of cool finally getting to see a Gulanee.
The scene with Rafe and Datak was pretty great.
I really liked Stahma's storyline. I wonder if she'll keep trying to get other women to join her, or if that's the end of that?
I liked the stuff between Irisa and Tommy. I'm glad someone else finally found out what was going on with her.
So we go from a dude who watches Amanda with a spy cam in her bedroom and was apparently obsessed with her ex, to a dude who likes to dress up as Castithans. Are any of the higher-ups in the E-Rep normal?
 
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