You mean the Federation treated him according to their values?
You mean the Federation treated him according to their values?
I don't blame you at all. I apologize if it came across as blame towards you.
With trust that is unearned and slapped down just as easily yet constantly rewarded with that trust. I guess broken trust is easily repaired in space future.
Georgiou is a monster; Garak is ok though. I don't get this at all.
Garak is absolutely a monster, I don’t think anyone has said otherwise. The reason Garak is okay is because, simply put, he is just the more entertaining character.
Which does not make sense to me. A monster is a monster. "Are you not entertained?" Is not my standard.
That is the whole reason entertainment exists. I mean, how can you watch pretty much anything if you’re not interested in how others experience the world?
I watch very few things.
Not to mention conditions of survival.
Yeah, Georgiou was indoctrinated into being what she was. We know she wasn't like that as a child before the competition.
I imagine Garak was also indoctrinated. So far, on planet Earth, I’ve found most people didn’t choose their ideas, they were planted before they ever knew the difference between right and wrong.
As far as Garak being embraced, he isn’t embraced for his values, he is embraced because of the character the writers and actor brought to life.
Garak is not good in the sense of moral and a great guy. But he is an excellent character for a drama.
Garak is probably Star Trek’s greatest secondary character.
The very flower of humanity, as Spock would say.
Unfortunately I do not find his drama very compelling.
They were fortunate to get Andrew Robinson, and we were fortunate to have him. Great writing involved, but also top-class acting.
Here's some dialogue from the DS9 episode, The Marquise Part 1 with Sisko and Dukat inside a runabout together.
"SISKO: I've heard they put Cardassian children in intense mind training programmes when they're four years old. Is that true?
DUKAT: The Cardassian educational system is unparalleled in the quadrant.
SISKO: If you don't mind taking the joy out of growing up.
DUKAT: Education is power. Joy is vulnerability.
SISKO: What?
DUKAT: Your reaction surprises me, Commander. I thought you would understand. Of all the humans I've met, you strike me as the most joyless and the least vulnerable.
SISKO: I am when I'm with you."
Cardassians are indoctrinated at a young age.
On a further note Andrew Robinson played the role of Garak very well.
Please do explain "how canon works" in a thread asking people what they would decanonize.
Same way it always does
It could have been directed at the part about already not considering them canon?
I understand that the decanonizer banks are due to be installed on some Tuesday down the line, but they're not online yet!
Oh, you mean my personal opinion? And not a statement of fact?
Why you're asking me to confirm what someone else meant, when my use of a question mark implied I could not do that, is quite beyond my capacity.
Similar threads
