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I have to admit to sacrilege: the first time I saw The Naked Time I fell asleep.Don't judge me! I was working weird hours at the time.
There's a follow-up episode to that one in early TNG called The Naked Now. It's awful.
awwwww. i was excited until i finished reading that statement hahahha. it's ok. i'm sure theres a lot of better episodes to come.. I hope?
hahaha
Are they in production order or broadcast order? By 'pilot', do you mean the one with Gary Mitchell, or the one with the salt monster?
Nope, the only good episodes or Star Trek are the first ten from TOS, the rest of the franchise is really poor.awwwww. i was excited until i finished reading that statement hahahha. it's ok. i'm sure theres a lot of better episodes to come.. I hope?
As for The Naked Now, some people like it so there's a chance you will too. I think it was a bad idea for TNG to do an out of character episode right after the pilot as we didn't know these guys yet, and the fact that it copied a TOS episode made it seem like the TNG writers couldn't come up with their own stories. It's also in early season 1, a period where the show took the cheesy 60s style of the original and mixed it with the cheesy 80s style of the time and created something that still haunts my nightmares.
I have to admit to sacrilege: the first time I saw The Naked Time I fell asleep.
There's a follow-up episode to that one in early TNG called The Naked Now. It's awful.
I too felt this way twenty three years ago. Now though, it's one of my favorite TNG episodes. Just watched it yesterday morning in fact.
Age and wisdom CAN be a good thing.
The fist episode on the disk is "the man trap"
Nope, the only good episodes or Star Trek are the first ten from TOS, the rest of the franchise is really poor.
As for The Naked Now, some people like it so there's a chance you will too. I think it was a bad idea for TNG to do an out of character episode right after the pilot as we didn't know these guys yet, and the fact that it copied a TOS episode made it seem like the TNG writers couldn't come up with their own stories. It's also in early season 1, a period where the show took the cheesy 60s style of the original and mixed it with the cheesy 80s style of the time and created something that still haunts my nightmares.
Yeah I see what you mean. I'll check it out anyway haha.
Ah yes, The Man Trap is just OK, nothing special. It's pilot in the sense that it was shown first in the original run, but it wasn't produced as the pilot - the original pilot is "The Cage", (don't worry, most of the footage was later re-worked into "Menagerie" so you'll certainly see it on your season 1 DVD, though you may also choose to see "The Cage" later) and after the cast changes (Kirk/Shatner instead of Pike/Hunter, etc.) "Where No Man Has Gone Before" was produced as the pilot, but the network decided to start with "The Man Trap" first. Both "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" are better than "The Man Trap".
I still quite enjoyed "The Man Trap". It's rather creepy to think that the scientist was willing to accept the monster as 'his wife' after it had killed her
But I guess there aren't that many beings able to look like just anything/anyone/any sex one desires to see, eh... 
(at least not before we meet some other beings in later Trek series ) My favorite thing about "The Man Trap" is that it's one of the rare episodes in which Uhura has a substantial role, instead of being relegated to uttering lines about hailing frequencies. And, since you've watched STXI recently, it must be quite fun to see Spock/Uhura scenes in "The Man Trap" and "Charlie X", isn't it? There are several great episodes in season 1... among others, the episode in which we first meet the Romulans (this one has always been a favorite of mine).
"The Naked Time" is a great episode, but "The Naked Now" is a guilty pleasure. It is bad, but how can you not love an episode in which
a woman gets drunk and fucks an android?
I'm 24 and I've even had sex a couple of times, so I already know everything!Age and wisdom CAN be a good thing.
"The Naked Time" is a great episode, but "The Naked Now" is a guilty pleasure. It is bad, but how can you not love an episode in whicha woman gets drunk and fucks an android?
Pfft, Women do that sort of thing all the time these days. I should know, I have many videos on my hard-drive about it.
The Naked Now has its moments, android lovin' being the main one, but the Wesley Crusher plot was a really bad idea. Although I do have to admit that if I was rewatching TNG I would be inclined not to skip that episode even if only for the new show charm.
The Naked Now has its moments, android lovin' being the main one, but the Wesley Crusher plot was a really bad idea. Although I do have to admit that if I was rewatching TNG I would be inclined not to skip that episode even if only for the new show charm.
Hello, all. I also happen to be starting a run-through (or whatever it is you'd call it) of TOS. You can see some of my thoughts on the early episodes so far in the form of recaps/reviews here: http://scifivoyage.blogspot.com/search/label/TOS
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I am glad you are enjoying the TOS Season 1 episodes so far.
The Remastered Edition DVDs does really make a big difference.
The episodes that are my favorite from Season 1 are...
1. Galileo Seven
2. Tomorrow is Yesterday
3. Errand of Mercy
4. The City on The Edge of Forever
However, I can't wait to see your opinion of my favorite Remastered TOS episode, though (in Season 2)...
The Doomsday Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivO7K2zYII
I am glad you are enjoying the TOS Season 1 episodes so far.
The Remastered Edition DVDs does really make a big difference.
The episodes that are my favorite from Season 1 are...
1. Galileo Seven
2. Tomorrow is Yesterday
3. Errand of Mercy
4. The City on The Edge of Forever
However, I can't wait to see your opinion of my favorite Remastered TOS episode, though (in Season 2)...
The Doomsday Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivO7K2zYII
Agreed. Fantastic episodes, though I'd throw "Balance of Terror" in there too.
Ah yes, The Man Trap is just OK, nothing special. It's pilot in the sense that it was shown first in the original run, but it wasn't produced as the pilot - the original pilot is "The Cage", (don't worry, most of the footage was later re-worked into "Menagerie" so you'll certainly see it on your season 1 DVD, though you may also choose to see "The Cage" later) and after the cast changes (Kirk/Shatner instead of Pike/Hunter, etc.) "Where No Man Has Gone Before" was produced as the pilot, but the network decided to start with "The Man Trap" first. Both "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" are better than "The Man Trap".
I still quite enjoyed "The Man Trap". It's rather creepy to think that the scientist was willing to accept the monster as 'his wife' after it had killed her
There are several great episodes in season 1... among others, the episode in which we first meet the Romulans (this one has always been a favorite of mine).
OHHH... now I see. I thought The Man Trap was a rather odd pilot hahah. I'll definitely watch The Cage at some point though! I thought that the scientist was rather creepy also lol.
and it was really really awesome to see Uhura and Spock interacting! I wasn't sure at first if the relationships/friendships in the new Star Trek were just created for the movie or if they were actually brought about from the series, but it's good to see it being picked up
I'm so excited to see the episodes featuring the Romulans!
THAT SOUNDS SO EPIC! i'm so stoked to watch it!
i've really liked what I've seen so far but i'm trying to pace myself so episodes don't bleed into each other and i start to confuse myself lol.
ps. The City on The Edge of Forever is also A Skylit Drive song, so that should probably make it more interesting hahahha
Why not?
Just don't expect to see much further Spock/Uhura interaction, for the most part it gets dropped in further episodesOHHH... now I see. I thought The Man Trap was a rather odd pilot hahah. I'll definitely watch The Cage at some point though! I thought that the scientist was rather creepy also lol.
and it was really really awesome to see Uhura and Spock interacting! I wasn't sure at first if the relationships/friendships in the new Star Trek were just created for the movie or if they were actually brought about from the series, but it's good to see it being picked up
I'm so excited to see the episodes featuring the Romulans!
The Romulans actually appear in just a couple of episodes (one in season 1 and one in season 3) but those are great episodes. Klingons appear a lot more regularly in TOS.
My favorites from season 1:
The Balance of Terror
This Side of Paradise
The Cage (and by extension, The Menagerie - it depends on which one you see first; the other one will look repetitive in comparison)
The Naked Time
The City on the Edge of Forever
The Devil in the Dark
Errand of Mercy
The Galileo Seven
The Enemy Within (apart from the awful final line)
The only one I hated was Mudd's Women, and The Alternative Factor is pointless.
My favourite is The Conscience of the King, but I'm a bit odd. 
By the way, one of the things that the new movie lacked was the triumvirate of Kirk/Spock/McCoy, that's a major aspect of the series.
That should explain the different uniforms used in Where No Man Has Gone Before, and why Dr McCoy was replaced by Dr Piper. DeForest Kelly didn't join the series until after the two pilots and it's a good thing that he did join the series because McCoy is my favourite character.
By the way, one of the things that the new movie lacked was the triumvirate of Kirk/Spock/McCoy, that's a major aspect of the series.
The Spock/Uhura relationship pretty much was created by the new movie, but there are certain scenes from the beginning of the show that can back up that relationship if you choose to view them that way (I don't). The movie also took some things that weren't mentioned on the series but which the fans considered to be true, such as the fact that Uhura's first name is Nyota, and the fact that McCoy joined Starfleet after his marriage broke up.and it was really really awesome to see Uhura and Spock interacting! I wasn't sure at first if the relationships/friendships in the new Star Trek were just created for the movie or if they were actually brought about from the series, but it's good to see it being picked up
There's not many episodes about the Romulans in TOS, their main appearances were in TNG when they'd have 2 or 3 episodes per season. In the final season of Enterprise they were building up to an event referenced in TOS called the Earth-Romulan War, but that show was cancelled before that story heated up.
My favourite is The Conscience of the King, but I'm a bit odd.
That should explain the different uniforms used in Where No Man Has Gone Before, and why Dr McCoy was replaced by Dr Piper. DeForest Kelly didn't join the series until after the two pilots and it's a good thing that he did join the series because McCoy is my favourite character.
so far i think my favorite character is Spock, then probably McCoy, then Kirk. i think it may just be Shatners portrayal of him because i liked him a lot in the movie. then again..he was played by Chris Pine<33333. hahaha
yeah I picked it up a bit with Kirk/Spock but yeah not much of a triumvirate. =/ it should be interesting to see some character development there.
awww.. that's disappointing. i hate when shows get canceled mid-plot. did any of the series choose to end?
TNG, DS9 and Voyager all perform a self-inflicted cancelation ritual involving pig's blood, Rick Berman in drag, and Klingon cutlery. It's really quite disturbing.
It really takes off in season 2 when DeForest Kelly is added to the main cast, from that point on most away teams will consist of Kirk, Spock, McCoy and a few redshirts that will be killed early in the episode. McCoy and Spock develop a great antagonistic relationship with one another, it's my favourite aspect of the series.
Amazingly, even though all the finales consisted of the same three elements, Voyager's still sucked!
On a more serious note:
TNG decided to end after its seventh season so that the cast could move on to doing movies, so DS9 and Voyager also ended after their seventh seasons. TNG didn't have a plot to end, but their finale brought back many elements of the pilot to make a fitting conclusion the the series, and some on this board consider it the best final episode for any series. DS9 knew it was going to end in its final season so they tied together all the remaining plots and had a proper finale that most consider satisfying. Voyager also knew they were ending, so they finished their main plot in their finale. Enterprise was almost cancelled after season 3 so they knew the writing was on the wall when making season 4. They were also given advanced warning that the show would be cancelled so that the showrunners could throw together some sort of finale, and they chose to make a finale for not just Enterprise, but all of modern Trek. This has widely been considered a bad idea.
that's crazy hahahaha. I can't wait
In your opinion, what seasons are the best of TOS?
i'm nervous about that hahahaa. has there been any word on another series being created or no?
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