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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1

I figured the lack of Kendra reincarnating is the reason Carter had no memories to begin with when Savage found him. He's broken.
 
Although, of course, the character Carter Hall was created many decades before Booster Gold.

Didn't they establish Michael as Rip Hunter's birth name in "Refuge"?
I'm not proposing a connection between Rip, Booster and Carter, just correcting Guy, Sometimes characters have similar names. The original Black Canary is Dinah Drake. Robin III is Tim Drake. AFAIK, they aren't related. Kyle Raynor and Selena Kyle aren't connected either.
 
I'm not proposing a connection between Rip, Booster and Carter, just correcting Guy, Sometimes characters have similar names. The original Black Canary is Dinah Drake. Robin III is Tim Drake. AFAIK, they aren't related. Kyle Raynor and Selena Kyle aren't connected either.

Wait, next you'll be telling me that Margo Lane (from "The Shadow") and Lois Lane aren't related . . . . :)
 
I dion't get how the team missing for 150 years is solidified.
As long as they still have their time machine and remain alive there is always the possibility to return to 2016.
Of course they can visit a future where they were missing for that long, but that timeline should be incredibly easy to avoid if they so choose.
 
I dion't get how the team missing for 150 years is solidified.
As long as they still have their time machine and remain alive there is always the possibility to return to 2016.
Of course they can visit a future where they were missing for that long, but that timeline should be incredibly easy to avoid if they so choose.

But that's not the rules the show has established. They claimed in several different episodes that time solidifies fairly quickly, even if it could still theoretically be changed back. That was the whole point of the pilgrim storyline, where they couldn't just remove their younger selves from the timeline to keep them safe. Because if their younger selves were gone too long, they would be erased from existence.

Also, this isn't something that even needs debating, actually: the show has explicitly stated (in the episode when they visited the future green arrow) that the futures they're visiting are futures in which none of them were ever heard from again after boarding the Waverider.
 
Yes, I get that. As long as they do not return and just skip to the future, all they would see is a future where they didn't return, because they haven't yet.
But they keep saying that this would be immutable and there would be nothing they could do about it.
Extracting their younger selfs might be different, cause that would mean a major paradox.
Though Flash hast established the concept of time remnants remaining, until the remnants catch up to the paradox, which kinda contradicts Legends a bit.
Maybe their is a difference between speedster time travelers and space ship time travelers.
Boy, where are the Time Lords when you need them? XD
 
Yes, I get that. As long as they do not return and just skip to the future, all they would see is a future where they didn't return, because they haven't yet.
But they keep saying that this would be immutable and there would be nothing they could do about it.
Extracting their younger selfs might be different, cause that would mean a major paradox.
Though Flash hast established the concept of time remnants remaining, until the remnants catch up to the paradox, which kinda contradicts Legends a bit.
Maybe their is a difference between speedster time travelers and space ship time travelers.
Boy, where are the Time Lords when you need them? XD

There's definitely a difference between them. The two shows really don't follow the same rules at all. Barry's literally interfered in the exact same moment multiple times.
 
Sure they do.

I'm watching Twelve Monkeys today, and Captain Ducane of the Federation Time Ship Relativity shows up, claiming to be FBI in 1944, while a bare Chested Alec Saddler from Continuum is running around a nut house trying not to be murdered by a hunk his own skeleton (from the future) fashioned into a knife.
 
There's definitely a difference between them. The two shows really don't follow the same rules at all. Barry's literally interfered in the exact same moment multiple times.

But has caused problems when he's done so. There's at least a loose consistency to the idea that interfering in your own past creates more problems than it solves, although in the Flash's case they're more personal problems than universe-collapsing-on-itself problems.
 
But has caused problems when he's done so. There's at least a loose consistency to the idea that interfering in your own past creates more problems than it solves, although in the Flash's case they're more personal problems than universe-collapsing-on-itself problems.

But if that´s how it works, it makes Rip look like a moron for valuing the integrity of his personal life over taking a chance to stop Savage for good.

Plus there´s the matter of the Time Wraiths, who are somehow completely irrelevent to LoT, and the Time Masters, who somehow never interfere with Speedsters, and the fact that Reverse Flash managed to survive being erased from history, yet the Time Masters solution for the LoT gang is to erase them from history. I could probably think of more if I really dug through them, but I think it´s pretty clear Flash´s time travel is a whole different kettle of fish from LoT.
 
But if that´s how it works, it makes Rip look like a moron for valuing the integrity of his personal life over taking a chance to stop Savage for good.

Plus there´s the matter of the Time Wraiths, who are somehow completely irrelevent to LoT, and the Time Masters, who somehow never interfere with Speedsters, and the fact that Reverse Flash managed to survive being erased from history, yet the Time Masters solution for the LoT gang is to erase them from history. I could probably think of more if I really dug through them, but I think it´s pretty clear Flash´s time travel is a whole different kettle of fish from LoT.
They do very much use different means of time travel. Rip Hunter and co. are not traveling through the Speed Force when jumping through time, but are instead riding through some sort of extradimensional space seemingly unrelated to it.

Not that it really matters, though, because whether or not they use the same methods, they both ignore their own in-universe explanations for the so-called "rules" of time traveling on a nearly episodic basis. It's a wonder the writers even try to create the illusion that there are rules in the first place.
 
When Werher von Braun was asked why the British rockets being designed to destroy Nazi Germany were almost exactly of the same design/anatomy/composition as what he had going on to level Europe and Britain he said (something like) that there comes a time for an idea sometimes wants to be born and nothing, not even geography, is going to stop that idea from happening.

(This is Code. Even telling you what this is code for, is a massive spoiler, but in a week or so most of you should know why I thought that was something relevant to say here, in this thread.)
 
http://tvline.com/2016/05/03/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2-cast-han-solo-female-soldier/

TVLine has learned that casting is now underway for two new series regular roles, to debut next season

A male in his late-20s to mid-30s is being sought to play a guy who grew up in the shadow of his World War II hero grandfather and has used a Han Solo-like facade to conceal his insecurity — until, that is, the development of super powers enables him to love up to his family legacy.

Also being cast for Legends Season 2 is the female member of an elite paramilitary team living in the 1940s. An African-American, she is scrutinized in her time for both her gender and race and thus has worked twice as hard to be a perfect soldier. That said, she blames herself for — and aims to avenge — the death of a team member for whom she had repressed feelings.

1940's paramilitary team? Blackhawks?
 
http://tvline.com/2016/05/03/legends-of-tomorrow-season-2-cast-han-solo-female-soldier/

TVLine has learned that casting is now underway for two new series regular roles, to debut next season
male in his late-20s to mid-30s is being sought to play a guy who grew up in the shadow of his World War II hero grandfather and has used a Han Solo-like facade to conceal his insecurity — until, that is, the development of super powers enables him to love up to his family legacy.

Also being cast for Legends Season 2 is the female member of an elite paramilitary team living in the 1940s. An African-American, she is scrutinized in her time for both her gender and race and thus has worked twice as hard to be a perfect soldier. That said, she blames herself for — and aims to avenge — the death of a team member for whom she had repressed feelings.

1940's paramilitary team? Blackhawks?

Sounds like the JLA Detroit's Steel and a version of Lady Blackhawk.
 
To be fair, we've only see him going mano a mano with Vandal Savage. Which, even with as pathetic as this Savage is, is still something. But yes, he's got a horrific track record.

I think we all called the Time Masters "twist" right?

On those announcements, I was definitely thinking Steel. Lady Blackhawk makes sense for the other. I assume we're losing the Hawks since Vandal Savage will be defeated.
 
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