Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1

[tenmei]

I think I read that DC recently launched an anthology book that's called Legends of Tomorrow but has essentially nothing to do with the show.

That's right - it does involve Firestorm, but otherwise virtually no connection. I meant in a way that Arrow quite clearly influenced the new 52 version of Green Arrow - am suprised we haven't got Rip Hunter leading a rag-tag team of heroes. Unless that's what the rebooted Red Hood and the Outlaws will be.

 

[Commander Richard]

I totally called it last week... Valentina became Firestorm. They even had another nice homage to the recent comic run by having her flames turn blue.

So, Jax isn't 21 and Stein pointed that out, yet he gave him a drink in the first episode to knock him out.

I was figuring they'd work Chernobyl into it somehow, as THAT meltdown happened in 1986, but I guess not.

Didn't think of that.

And as Soviet gulags in winter go, this one was REALLY green.

It was a green Christmas, just like this year.

 

[The Old Mixer]

So, Jax isn't 21 and Stein pointed that out, yet he gave him a drink in the first episode to knock him out.

Good catch--Stein isn't just a creepy, date-rapey kidnapper, he's a hypocrite!

 

[Beagleman]

So was the legal drinking age in 1986 Russia really 12?

 

[Nerys Myk]

I thought it was "at birth".

 

[Mr. Adventure]

So was the legal drinking age in 1986 Russia really 12?

According to Wikipedia:
There is no law or regulation in Russia that prohibits minors from consuming alcohol, but selling alcohol to minors is prohibited by federal and additional regional laws.

Until 2011, any drink with ABV under 10% was not considered an alcoholic beverage.

My favorite part is the last line, just sounds macho: "You call that a drink, little boy?"

 

[matthunter]

According to Wikipedia:
There is no law or regulation in Russia that prohibits minors from consuming alcohol, but selling alcohol to minors is prohibited by federal and additional regional laws.

The law used to be fairly similar in the UK - you could buy a whisky in a bar and serve it to a kid as long as it was in the beer garden. And I started getting a small glass of white wine with the Sunday roast when I was 14 (well, Blue Nun, which is barely alcoholic for wine at 5%)

 

[publiusr]

I never watched The Flash or Arrow--I guess TWILIGHT poisoned me against youngsters--but I like this program

 

[tenmei]

The law used to be fairly similar in the UK - you could buy a whisky in a bar and serve it to a kid as long as it was in the beer garden. And I started getting a small glass of white wine with the Sunday roast when I was 14 (well, Blue Nun, which is barely alcoholic for wine at 5%)

You can still drink at 16 or 17 in a pub as long as you are eating a meal with the drink - and you're eating it with someone over 18. It is limited to beer, wine and cider though.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Are there laws against the dead drinking?

30 years in the future, if Stein's death certificate is filed publicly, the IBouncer won't let him drink.

 

[Mr Light]

Ugh. Once again they catch Savage and just let him go (after blowing him up).
Why don't they just shoot him in the head, then take his body on the ship and throw it in the sun? Or throw him into deep space?

Savage is just not enough of a physical threat to justify the danger posed in this series.

 

[Christopher]

I never watched The Flash or Arrow--I guess TWILIGHT poisoned me against youngsters

I don't understand that comment. Even aside from the non sequitur of judging superhero adventure series on the basis of a bad supernatural romance, there's the fact that all the main characters in The Flash and Arrow are adults ranging from their 20s through their 50s. The only regular character on either show whom we ever saw as a teenager was Thea Queen in Arrow, and she turned 21 last month. (The character, that is -- the actress is now 25.)

Ugh. Once again they catch Savage and just let him go (after blowing him up).
Why don't they just shoot him in the head, then take his body on the ship and throw it in the sun? Or throw him into deep space?

So far, we've been given no indication that the Waverider has spaceflight capability -- just aerial flight and time travel.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Travelling through subspace, means that the Waverider, that may not be spaceworthy, hypothetically can almost instantly translocate from inside the atmosphere of one planet to inside the atmosphere of another planet, skipping any need to travel through space at all.

 

[DarKush]

Was Jax's run in the latest episode an homage to Jim Brown in The Dirty Dozen? It reminded me of it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

stupid.

You can fly.

Shoot the guards form 40 feat up.

1986...Would they be shielded from EMP?

Rip is making them do a lot of busy work.

or how about this.

Land next to the switch box.

Which wasn't locked why?

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I don't understand that comment. Even aside from the non sequitur of judging superhero adventure series on the basis of a bad supernatural romance, there's the fact that all the main characters in The Flash and Arrow are adults ranging from their 20s through their 50s. The only regular character on either show whom we ever saw as a teenager was Thea Queen in Arrow, and she turned 21 last month. (The character, that is -- the actress is now 25.)

I think you get too literal thinking about this, it's like how Power Rangers is a children's show though it doesn't star any children. I think when people complain about the age aspect they mean elements that seem to be done in a way to appeal to a "young adult" audience. CW has(had?) a target audience of women 18-34 and has only started recently expanding past that.

Unfortunately, as well, you get old enough and even people in their 20s aren't too removed from teens. I think I'd look like Wells or Joe running around with the Flash kids.

Either way, it's probably more productive to encourage people to look past their bias than to try to dismiss the bias.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Crap is not a fixed point.

It's a rainbow wheel.

Twilight and this here, are completely different shades of brown on the crap spectrum.

 

[Christopher]

I think when people complain about the age aspect they mean elements that seem to be done in a way to appeal to a "young adult" audience. CW has(had?) a target audience of women 18-34 and has only started recently expanding past that.

In publishing, "young adult" is a term that basically means works targeted at high school-age teens (who want to think of themselves as adults, hence the use of a label that's more aspirational than actual). I think 18-34 is pretty much the prime target demographic for mass media in general.

Either way, it's probably more productive to encourage people to look past their bias than to try to dismiss the bias.

I wasn't dismissing it, I was confused by it. I didn't say "I don't understand that comment" as some rhetorical device, but as a statement of literal fact. I said "I don't understand" because I simply did not understand the use of the term "youngsters" -- a word which, to me, is synonymous with children -- in reference to shows with adult casts.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I wasn't dismissing it, I was confused by it. I didn't say "I don't understand that comment" as some rhetorical device, but as a statement of literal fact. I said "I don't understand" because I simply did not understand the use of the term "youngsters" -- a word which, to me, is synonymous with children -- in reference to shows with adult casts.

By context with using it with Twilight it would seem apparent that it's more than just children. While youngster is probably more formally correct to describe children it's not unheard of for it to mean a young person.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/youngster?s=t

 

[The Old Mixer]

It's not unheard of to refer to teenagers as "youngsters"...you just have to be an old fart to do it.

Now get off my lawn!