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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1

They could've named it something meaningless and that might've been better.

Exactly. They clearly wanted the radiation to have arbitrary properties that fit their story, so they should've used an imaginary name instead of something that really exists and doesn't fit their narrative. Calling their imaginary radiation "alpha particles" is like, say, inventing an imaginary lost continent populated by sentient giraffes and naming it "Florida."
 
The item you quoted doesn't say that the radiation itself is potentially hazardous if absorbed, but rather the radioactive materials that emit it. Because they're heavy metals and it's a bad idea in general to get heavy metals in your body. Sure, too much of any kind of radiation is bad for you, but it's not like the tiniest amount will be instantly fatal.

We're all constantly exposed to a minor background level of radiation every day. You get a dose of radiation from eating a banana, because of the trace amounts of radioactive potassium in it. Not to mention the potassium that's already in your body and radiating from inside you. I live in a brick building, so I'm getting a steady dose of low-level radiation all the time. And so on. Radiation is like most anything else -- it's too much of it that's dangerous.

The further away cheese is, the more potently it certainly reeks that you can still smell it.

Steins Alpha Particle detector found Rays Atomtech miles and miles away, when supposedly alpha particles have a hard time getting through fabric, or being detected when obscured by (even) fabric. The very short article said that it's bad if alpha particles get inside you, but it's very hard for that to happen since clothing and flesh are an effective barriers between this poison and the bits of us that would be vulnerable.

I really think that they thought that they were making up imaginary science.

Ray says Alpha particles are a by product of "The compression of Dwarf star alloy"

In reality Alpha Particles are "two neutron and two protons" (helium-2) that bleed off a heavy element during alpha decay as one heavy element transmutes into a different heavy element.

It's a fricking helium detector?
 
Well, we got a vague Superman and Batman tease in the Arrowverse.

"Seems you brought a knife to a swordfight"...definitely sound anachronistic in 1975.

Could they have cast someone as Snart Senior who looks and feels less like Michael Ironside?
 
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I have to admit, I'm not finding this show as engaging as the others yet. It's got too many things going on that don't quite mesh, too many characters that don't quite mesh yet, too much of the team randomly going separate ways (although I guess the point of this one was to have them realize they need to stop doing that).

Sara's idea to attack Savage's fortune was a very good one. Too bad they got sidetracked from it -- I would've liked to see a good old-fashioned team heist story. Hunter's Eight, anyone?

I'm puzzled by Sara's bloodlust, since I thought they said on Arrow yesterday that what Constantine did to restore Sara had cured her of the bloodlust. Maybe the characters there were just wrong about that, but why have them say it just a day before they were proven wrong in the other show?


Well, we got a vague Superman and Batman tease in the Arrowverse.

I noticed something else... When they flash the location-and-time stamps on the screen, the location seems to scroll quickly through various place names before settling on one, and I think the text in the opening Egypt scene flashed "METROPOLIS" for one frame. (Unless it was Indianapolis or Annapolis or something.)

"Seems you brought a knife to a swordfight"...definitely sound anachronistic in 1975.

I can't track down specifics, but I've found sources attributing the original quote to a noted firearms enthusiast/developer named Elmer Keith (1899-1984), who had a hand in the the development of Magnum revolvers. Apparently his "Three Laws of Gunfights" are "1. Bring a gun. 2. Never bring a knife to a gunfight. 3. Never bring a pistol to a rifle fight." But I haven't been able to find a specific attribution or date for that quotation. In any case, it does seem to predate the movie The Untouchables, which is where most people today seem to know it from.

I was more struck by the phrase "I highly doubt that" uttered by Savage's henchman (Blake, was it?) That's a formation I've only recently begun to notice and find rather odd. So it strikes me as a current usage rather than a 1970s usage.

Could they have cast someone as Snart Senior who looks and feels less like Michael Ironside?

The voice was okay.
 
Yeah, I noticed that about the bloodlust, and I've only been half-watching Arrow. And speaking of, shouldn't the previously's voiceover say "Previously on Legends of Tomorrow, Flash, and Arrow"?
 
Rip seems completely incompetent for a former "Time Master." Apparently, he really did think it was a good idea to go back 4,000 years (to just after Savage becomes immortal?) to kill a man deeply involved in key events in human history, and all his plans revolve around fist-fights with one or two members of his team (never gathering them all together for the fight with Savage--I assume we have to wait for the season finale for that to happen). He actually needs somebody else to tell him that it might make sense to weaken Vandal's support base rather than going straight after him directly.

And that's not even getting into the stunning obviousness that Rip could have taken advantage of Vandal being temporarily dead to capture him until Hawkgirl is ready to perform the final blow.
 
OK, show's over. I mean, they couldn't possibly be incompetent enough to have just left Vandal Savage there could they? They must have finished him off off-screen. That's the only logical assumption to make if these are supposed to represent humans of even mild intelligence, right?

Leaving Savage there just defies logic.
 
OK, show's over. I mean, they couldn't possibly be incompetent enough to have just left Vandal Savage there could they? They must have finished him off off-screen. That's the only logical assumption to make if these are supposed to represent humans of even mild intelligence, right?

Leaving Savage there just defies logic.
Particularly after realizing that leaving Carter's body behind in the first place was a mistake...
 
It's possible that Hunter collected each of these heroes from different (yet similar) timelines to minimize the the disturbances their absences would cause, and that is why Stein has no memory of teaching Palmer because he didn't.

Concerning the atom tech turning the present into a slag heap or Stein's ring disappearing, it all depends on when the Legends individual times diverged from each other, that changes to t he past can effect many timeline simultaneously is they all have a common shared history if you go far back enough.
 
I just rewatched.

WTF?

Stabbed in the neck, completely passed out unconscious (seemingly dead?) and they just... Leave him there?

Riiiiiiight.

That body seemed dead.

Maybe it was dead, but there's a process from which any cell of his can be nurtured back into a full sized Vandal Savage with all the memories and abilities of Vandal savage?

If the Waverider is also really a space ship, dump him on the moon.
 
And two guys with a heat and cold gun, plus a flying nuclear man couldn't have held off a bunch of 70s goons long enough for another in a powered suit of armour to scoop up the body, so as not to further pollute the timeline by leaving him there? :scream:
 
And two guys with a heat and cold gun, plus a flying nuclear man couldn't have held off a bunch of 70s goons long enough for another in a powered suit of armour to scoop up the body, so as not to further pollute the timeline by leaving him there? :scream:

I didn't say they couldn't have done it, I said they were hurried and distracted, so maybe it didn't occur to them. I think it's pretty well-established by now that these guys are pretty bad at making plans.
 
Do you know what temporal pollution is?

Taking Vandal at any point before these people were born is like taking Steve Jobs, Stalin or Jimmy Carter out of their natural place in early history and wondering if 2016 still looks anything like 2016?

They are eco-terrorists trying to screw over the... Remember the bad guys in Captain Planet, how they just thought that smog was cool, so they spewed poison into the air for no reason? That's what Rip hunter is doing.

If the group hadn't been there in 1975, what was going to happen to that nuke Vandal was selling?
 
Not quite getting what's odd about that. People have been referring to the sinking of the Titanic since 1912. Am I missing the joke here?
Victor Garber who plays Professor Stein, also played Thomas Andrews (the Titanic's engineer) in James Cameron's 1997 movie.

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Do you know what temporal pollution is?

Taking Vandal at any point before these people were born is like taking Steve Jobs, Stalin or Jimmy Carter out of their natural place in early history and wondering if 2016 still looks anything like 2016?
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We were referencing episode 2, re: leaving Carter behind, and tonight realizing it was a mistake to not try and retrieve him, and doing the same thing again with Randy.

Come to think of it, all these henchmen getting killed off, c'mon, how is this not mushrooming into a giant butterfly effect? How do we know their offspring that now won't be born wouldn't have grown up and become a superhero, find a cure for baldnesss, or deflate footballs for NFL quarterbacks? :D
Rip Hunter and crew, tearing up history and loving it.
 
As I was watching I couldn't fight that nagging feeling that this series....kinda sucks. And now they're going from an undercooked version of the 70s to (sigh) the 80s?
 
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